kodiakblair Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, stewblack said: The 4 string is on my watchist but it's a bit too expensive for me right now. Think I had one of the first BZ-4000 in the UK. They went on sale 25/08/15 but mine arrived a day or so before that. 12lb if its a day, cracking looking bass. Reasonably chunky neck,active/passive. A lit of bass for little money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 hours ago, kodiakblair said: Those RB414's were released back in 2015 with not a peep from John Hall. He clearly remembers what happened last time someone upset the Germans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLowDown Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 15 hours ago, kodiakblair said: What legal considerations would that be ? Thomann's a multi million concern not some fly by night Ali Express vendor. I'm well aware of Thomann. It was suggested on a YouTube review of the MB-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 ^^^ see, that one is the same as the black models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiakblair Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 hours ago, TheLowDown said: I'm well aware of Thomann. It was suggested on a YouTube review of the MB-4 Close to 6 years moderating the bass side of the Harley Benton forum and the same dishing out numbers on the TalkBass owners thread, never had anybody make a similar claim. Video Boy is reading far too much into things, must think EBMM have exclusive rights to a pickup position. He's also comparing his bass to a 5 year old photo, in that time Thomann have switched factories at least twice. Each factory changes has seen a difference in parts to reflect what they have in the stores or what deal their suppliers offer. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 There's a Harley Benton forum? Is it also good value and perform beyond it's price point? Is the mysterious Mr Benton an admin? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, Bassfinger said: There's a Harley Benton forum? Is it also good value and perform beyond it's price point? Is the mysterious Mr Benton an admin? I'm in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I imagine the elusive Harley Benton is like the man from Del Monte. Middle aged, dark and mysterious, tropical weight suit and straw boater, fondness for ladyboys. Ay yes, the man will be a class act. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiakblair Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 37 minutes ago, Bassfinger said: There's a Harley Benton forum? Aye. Friend of mine set it up, same fella who started the TalkBass HB group. Don't think he was nursing a hangover when he started the forum , he was definitely hungover when the TalkBass idea hit 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLowDown Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 16 hours ago, kodiakblair said: Close to 6 years moderating the bass side of the Harley Benton forum and the same dishing out numbers on the TalkBass owners thread, never had anybody make a similar claim. Video Boy is reading far too much into things, must think EBMM have exclusive rights to a pickup position. He's also comparing his bass to a 5 year old photo, in that time Thomann have switched factories at least twice. Each factory changes has seen a difference in parts to reflect what they have in the stores or what deal their suppliers offer. That photo is still on the website https://harleybenton.com/product/mb-4-sb/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiakblair Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, TheLowDown said: That photo is still on the website https://harleybenton.com/product/mb-4-sb/ Aye, they never updated the website. The RB-414 is probably still listed as "semi hollow". The specs for the MB-4 never changed so no need to change a photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 I don't know about semi hollow, but it's given me a semi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 On 02/12/2020 at 09:49, stewblack said: It's more comfortable than a Ric, to me at least, does it sound like one? It can. Strangely, a Ric - with binding, not without - is still the most comfortable bass for me these days, due to nerve problems in my arm and how I rest it on the bass. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Bassfinger said: I don't know about semi hollow, but it's given me a semi. I was travelling across nevada, and on one of the desert roads was 'the biggest sex shop in <wherever I was>'. I thought it was quite amusing at the time as there were large billboards both sides of the road, one side had about god and repenting, the other had about this sex shop. When we got there it had a really big carpark (it was a barn in the desert) and had a big sign by the car park entrance which said 'No Semi's Allowed'. Almost crashed I did. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slapbass Shaun Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Only just picked up on this thread(and recently Harley Benton) and really liking some of the positive comments. Ive had all sorts of basses over the years from a Vintage(the make) Bass Collection copy to an almost new Fender Jazz Elite and loads in between but always had a fascination for low/budget guitars/basses. One of my first was a 1984 Westone Thunder passive bass which was just over £100 Nowadays a cheap bass is less than that!! How can they do it for the price? Anyway Ive always fancied a 5 stringer and a MM so I have ordered a HB MB5 brand new & delivered for £115!! I'll let you know how it goes...... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jassbass Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Slapbass Shaun said: Only just picked up on this thread(and recently Harley Benton) and really liking some of the positive comments. Ive had all sorts of basses over the years from a Vintage(the make) Bass Collection copy to an almost new Fender Jazz Elite and loads in between but always had a fascination for low/budget guitars/basses. One of my first was a 1984 Westone Thunder passive bass which was just over £100 Nowadays a cheap bass is less than that!! How can they do it for the price? Anyway Ive always fancied a 5 stringer and a MM so I have ordered a HB MB5 brand new & delivered for £115!! I'll let you know how it goes...... Nice one Edited December 5, 2020 by jassbass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 I'm loving my MB-4. Its just great fun to play. So much so, I'm thinking of starting a new religion - the Church of Harley Benton, anyone? Even when it's been a poor day with the collection plate the priest can still afford a decent bass. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom1946 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Harley Benton sounds like the 'James Nelligan' guitar that Stagg produce. The rep called in my shop on his monthly visit and I asked who JN was and he told me he was an accountant in their German office.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Harley Benton looks like Brad Pitt, dresses like Roger Moore, and has a voice that would make Richard Burton purr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiakblair Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 53 minutes ago, tom1946 said: Harley Benton sounds like the 'James Nelligan' guitar that Stagg produce. The rep called in my shop on his monthly visit and I asked who JN was and he told me he was an accountant in their German office.... The story Lasse Thernoe tells is they were all a bit whizzed when the time came to name the brand, nobody present admits to the suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pea Turgh Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Bassfinger said: Harley Benton looks like Brad Pitt, dresses like Roger Moore, and has a voice that would make Richard Burton purr. ... and plays bass like Chuck Norris fights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLowDown Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) My MB-4 arrived today. It's much heavier(4.5kg) than I expected it to be for a 4 string, and is even heavier than my HB 6 string! The neck is chunky, but playable. Edited December 7, 2020 by TheLowDown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHeart Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 On 07/12/2020 at 16:25, TheLowDown said: My MB-4 arrived today. It's much heavier(4.5kg) than I expected it to be for a 4 string, and is even heavier than my HB 6 string! The neck is chunky, but playable. Is it one of the black ones or sunburst? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 One mans chunky is another mans excellent - im 6'5" with hands the size of dinner plates, so provided its shaped nicely a chunky neck is nirvana to my mitts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLowDown Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, DarkHeart said: Is it one of the black ones or sunburst? Sunburst. Maybe they're heavier. I've seen the bass quoted as being around 8lbs which is a good kg lighter. I expect there to be some variance in weight between basses, but surely not this much. Edited December 9, 2020 by TheLowDown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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