Hellzero Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) Due to the Covid-19 situation and severe back problems (66% officially disabled because of it) plus right shoulder injury (non-operable capsulitis from which, after more than 3 years, I will never fully recover), I'm selling all my basses over 4 kilos and also the ones I'm not really using. I've also considerably lowered the price for a quick sale. KRAMER 450 B original fretless from 1979 with original latte macchiato hard case. NOW OPENED (past participle) TO TRADES ! Asking price including shipping fully insured with tracking number to your place in these European countries (ask for other countries) : Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France (excluding French overseas departments and territories), Germany, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxemburg, Monaco, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and United Kingdom : £999 GBP !!! In fully working condition, fully original (except for the new tuners as the original ones were dead and the two strap buttons) and in very good overall condition. Here are the specifications : Body : walnut and maple Neck : aluminium with walnut inserts Fingerboard : ebonol (bakelite, in fact) Positions : 20 original lined fretless (not a defretted model) Headstock : 2 + 2 shape (angled) Pickups : 2 original Kramer with their original wood surroundings (pickups are adjustable ONLY at the back) Preamp : passive Controls : 2 volumes, 2 tones, 3 positions switch with the original aluminium drop Tuners : new Schaller M4 180 Light (to avoid neck diving) Bridge : original Kramer Strings spacing at bridge : 18.5 mm Nut : aluminium with zero fret Strings spacing at nut : 11 mm Knobs : 4 new identical to the original knurled type ones (original well worn and partly broken do come with the bass) Scale : 33 3/4" Hardware colour : chrome and aluminium Truss rod : none and perfect very slight relief whatever strings gauge you may put Finish : high gloss Land of craftsmanship : USA Serial number : 22168 Year : 1979 Weight : 4.505 kilos Action : from a bit under 1.5 mm under the G string to a bit under 2 mm under the E string at 12th position (can go lower, but was perfect for me) Will come with the original Kramer rare latte macchiato hard case and 1 NOS spare set of Alembic CX3-45L strings that suit this fretless at the perfection, even if they have a bad habit to rust in places even when new !?! Non-smoking environment as usual. The bass has been fully set up professionally by Christophe LEDUC who did a fingerboard dressing and changed the tuners. It has been fitted with a brand new set of Alembic CX3-45L nickel pressure wound strings (45 - 65 - 80 - 105). This bass is, despite its age, still very modern sounding and dead silent. No neck diving with the new tuners. Link to the Kramer vintage aluminium page : http://www.vintagekramer.com/alum.htm Link to the Schaller tuners fitted : https://www.emma-music.com/-schaller,us,4,SCH-503172.cfm Link to the Alembic strings : http://www.alembic.com/prod/strings.html What you see is what you get ! Look at the photos taken under different angles to see the very good condition for a 41 years old bass ! Pay attention to the neck fitting where you can hide lots of things : it's the way they were assembled, sometimes very tight, sometimes not at all, but it has no incidence on the sound. All the photos are here : https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ENOsU_o_tTfLEu2doDGyeCVE-xYls0Vr?usp=sharing Don't hesitate to ask for more. Edited September 28, 2020 by Hellzero Trades 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo2 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Cool AF looking bass, GLWTS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Another nice Kramer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Is it a fretted bass that has been de fretted rather than a factory Fretless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, gareth said: Is it a fretted bass that has been de fretted rather than a factory Fretless No, it's not. It's been inspected by the great luthier Christophe LEDUC and there is absolutely no signs of prior fretting on this bass. It's also mentioned in the ad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 That's a stunner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 NOW OPENED (past participle) TO TRADES ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfJames Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 That is one cool looking bass................ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbass13 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I was at my friend Tony‘s place today and played some beautiful basses. But this Kramer Fretless knocked me out. One of the best sounding fretless basses I ever played. I did not expect that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 For those in quest of a bargain, look at this one : https://reverb.com/item/26463257-kramer-450-b-bass-1978-natural Please stop making indecent buying proposals ! Before proposing any amount look at today's market price and consider your price cut in percents ! Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Hellzero said: For those in quest of a bargain, look at this one : https://reverb.com/item/26463257-kramer-450-b-bass-1978-natural Please stop making indecent buying proposals ! Before proposing any amount look at today's market price and consider your price cut in percents ! Many thanks. I'll give you £500 for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 Fine, I'll send the kit and the glue. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 And gone ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfJames Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Well done and worth every penny mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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