NicoMcJ Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I did do a forum search before posting this - I promise - but no dice... I'm trying to get that Hysteria intro sound dialled in and I'm pretty close. I've got the right amount of nasty square wave distortion/fuzz, I've got the pickup balance just right and I've got the clean/dirt ratio about there. What I can't nail is that weird, warbly bit that's going on in the high-end range for the intro and ending. Is it a phaser? Is it a Bassballs? Is it some trickery not available to us mere mortals? I have a Pod Go, so a pretty wide range of things to try if anyone has any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I used to run a Digitech BSW in parallel with the distortion for that. Used a Boss LS-2 to deal with the blend. Got very close indeed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicoMcJ Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 I use the "growler" model on my Skunk Anasie type tone in place of a Digitech, I wonder if that will get me close? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbandit599 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I'm playing about with this too. Currently I'm liking fuzz into a slow phaser, blended with a clean signal via LS2. Also like the blended fuzz into a cocked wah. Best to roll off the treble on the bass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Not the singing then ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicoMcJ Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 I think I'm getting closer! I used a MuTron model on the band-pass setting with quite a narrow Q at a 35% mix. It was still lacking. Just for shear morbid curiosity I popped on a sub octave at a 50/50 ratio and BOOM, closest I've ever got. Close enough for rock n roll anyway. So: -Jazz bass, bridge pickup, tone on about 50% -Digitech Drop with the dry+sub octave setting -Line 6 Pod Go with a real Big Muff in the FX loop, mixed at 60% -Mutron filter model, band pass setting, narrow Q, low mix I understand that I'll never recreate the proper tone without a full studio of goodies at my disposal, but it's definitely close enough to fool the casual observer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Can't believe I found this... This was a VERY DRUNK jam night in 2008. You can't actually see me until the very end and as the bass is a bit quiet you can only hear the full tone for the first few seconds. Anyway - It was a Status Fretless with La Bella Flats (I am not joking!!) into a Boss LS2 line selector. In 1 loop there was a EHX Metal Muff, in the other the Digitech BSW. Then when combined into a compressor to even them out a bit. In hindsight the swirly bit is a bit loud compared to the rest, but I like it. Let the embarrassment commence... (I need to confirm exactly how p1ssed we were.... as a mattress. We had never played together before, not even a rehearsal). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicoMcJ Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) That's actually pretty cool for a p1$$ed up jam!!! Edited July 17, 2020 by NicoMcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Shortly after that I had to play with 2 proper beardy jazzers! So jazz they even bought chairs onto the stage to sit down!! It was a strange night! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_c2 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 On 15/07/2020 at 13:07, NicoMcJ said: Is it some trickery not available to us mere mortals? I understood it to be a synth doubled with the bass guitar. Of course, in a studio situation, its possible to focus in on a recorded bassline and also (either transcribing or knowing the music) put together a MIDI track of the same thing and if the bass guitar departs from the exact timing (which of course, it will do, being played by a human) tweak the MIDI notes to match. I've experimented with audio-to-MIDI and its possible, but there's a lag and also restrictions (at least, on the tools I used) in that the aftertouch and any pitch bend info aren't sensed. I'm not sure if the velocity maps that well either. And of course, there is a lag which isn't too bad if its a guitar playing high notes, but on a bass, the laws of physics means the lag is basically unusable. So it might be possible with a synth-type effect (if you can accept the lag of the synth part) or with a keyboard player also playing the same line, in a live situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_c2 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 ETA here is an example, on an alto sax: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, fretmeister said: (I need to confirm exactly how p1ssed we were.... as a mattress. We had never played together before, not even a rehearsal). I'm with @NicoMcJ That's pretty darn impressive, given the circumstances. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 It was a fun night. Raised a load of cash for a charity. Best bit of the night wasn't a performance as such - some idiot was having a go at the PA guys. They had provided the rig for free to help the charity. Bloke was doing the "you don't know what you're doing. Have you even got any good kit????" PA Guy - "This is our smallest rig. Our biggest one is currently in Wembley Stadium with Robbie Williams!" As passive-aggressive mic-drops go, that was ace! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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