fretmeister Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Quick background - I play in at a music trust every Saturday, in 3 different ensembles. Each requires a room change so I have to move my gear every 50 mins or so. Current gear for this is: Bass Class D head Barefaced One10 Compressor & tuner. The amp rig is very light, but to save time between rooms I put my bass back in the bag, and balance the pedals on top of the Amp&Cab and then carry it, with my sheet music in another bag with a shoulder strap. I can then do it in 1 trip, which is pretty much compulsory. I don't unplug anything other than the power and the bass. When carrying all of it, it's quite heavy so I'm wondering about approaching this from the other direction and getting a larger cab that has wheels so I don't actually have to do much lifting. 1 room change (in and out) has a couple of stairs but nothing too bad. So what is the lightest cab you can think of that comes with wheels as standard? I'm thinking Tilt-back really and not like a Marshall 4x12! I know the Barefaced Super Twin has tilt back wheels, but are there other options? Built in wheels don't seem to be that common. All ideas welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrixn1 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Keep the existing rig and get a lightweight folding hand cart? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Why not make find a way to secure the whole lot to one of these? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yaheetech-Aluminium-Foldable-Industrial-Warehouse/dp/B01N9K7KQR?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_4 Or buy casters for the bottom of the One10 and attach a handle? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBunny Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) If you like your current set-up, just buy a fold up trolley from Aldi, ( I think they have them at the moment for £17), and a long bungee strap, the flat type, to keep everything in place when you move. I do something similar with 2 1x12's, a small head and an aluminium "bits box". Works a treat. Job done for minimum outlay. Looks like a number of like minded BassChatters. Edited March 9, 2020 by BassBunny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, jrixn1 said: Keep the existing rig and get a lightweight folding hand cart? I'd still have to take the rig off the cart when in use other wise those things always end up with a nasty rattle somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBunny Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, fretmeister said: I'd still have to take the rig off the cart when in use other wise those things always end up with a nasty rattle somewhere. If you have feet on the cab it just slides away. I just use the bungee to keep everything together when moving it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 Just now, BassBunny said: If you have feet on the cab it just slides away. I just use the bungee to keep everything together when moving it. Mmmm. Might be worth trying and using the distance selling rules etc to give a trolley a proper go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, fretmeister said: I'd still have to take the rig off the cart when in use other wise those things always end up with a nasty rattle somewhere. Then go for fixing casters to the bottom of the One10 and find a way to attach a handle - so the One10 becomes the base of the trolley and all the other gear sits on top - like a bag the aircrew use. I'd look at lifting the pull-up handle from an old suitcase and go from there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, fretmeister said: Mmmm. Might be worth trying and using the distance selling rules etc to give a trolley a proper go. I might be able to help you with "used" one that you can move on if it doesn't work for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertbass Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 This is what you need. https://www.pennelcomonline.com/en/gb/Penn-Elcom-3-Stage-Removable-Case-Trolley-H4515/m-8943.aspx?PartnerID=10&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=UnitedKingdom&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0pfzBRCOARIsANi0g0sAvEMDbqooWz-Mhzato7FX7jMUCMvjDnOkLD6jLAACHCxEBInkXFAaArEmEALw_wcB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 A trolley and a couple of bungee straps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 A PJB double four, a clip-on tuner and a backpack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 hours ago, bertbass said: This is what you need. https://www.pennelcomonline.com/en/gb/Penn-Elcom-3-Stage-Removable-Case-Trolley-H4515/m-8943.aspx?PartnerID=10&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=UnitedKingdom&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0pfzBRCOARIsANi0g0sAvEMDbqooWz-Mhzato7FX7jMUCMvjDnOkLD6jLAACHCxEBInkXFAaArEmEALw_wcB That looks handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Got to be a folding trolley. The wheels on cabs are generally small, which means they are next to useless on anything but level/smooth ground. A trolley will mean you can use the gear you prefer, rather than be limited to the stuff that has wheels. Avoid the El Cheapo trolleys. You don't need to spend a fortune. I paid around £80 for something with a 120 kilo capacity that is still light and will probably outlast me. It carries all my PA stuff, too, which is a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlefeeder Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 7 hours ago, bertbass said: This is what you need. https://www.pennelcomonline.com/en/gb/Penn-Elcom-3-Stage-Removable-Case-Trolley-H4515/m-8943.aspx?PartnerID=10&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=UnitedKingdom&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0pfzBRCOARIsANi0g0sAvEMDbqooWz-Mhzato7FX7jMUCMvjDnOkLD6jLAACHCxEBInkXFAaArEmEALw_wcB I disagree - looking at the size of the wheels, that is unlikely to cope with a dirt-track car park, rough concrete flooring, kebstones etc. You need something with soft tyres on 100mm (or bigger) wheels. David 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 So you guys are telling me to buy the Super Twin then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Low Class Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, bertbass said: This is what you need. https://www.pennelcomonline.com/en/gb/Penn-Elcom-3-Stage-Removable-Case-Trolley-H4515/m-8943.aspx?PartnerID=10&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=UnitedKingdom&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0pfzBRCOARIsANi0g0sAvEMDbqooWz-Mhzato7FX7jMUCMvjDnOkLD6jLAACHCxEBInkXFAaArEmEALw_wcB +1! Here's my rig with a similar product: https://tchweb.com/three-stage-removable-surface-mount-extension-handle-with-wheels/ I looked at the one you linked to also before I bought this one as it seemed to be a little more heavy duty. This is my 3rd cab now with this setup. Edited March 10, 2020 by Low Class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Class Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Mottlefeeder said: I disagree - looking at the size of the wheels, that is unlikely to cope with a dirt-track car park, rough concrete flooring, kebstones etc. You need something with soft tyres on 100mm (or bigger) wheels. David From the OP: "Quick background - I play in at a music trust every Saturday, in 3 different ensembles. Each requires a room change so I have to move my gear every 50 mins or so. " Doesn't sound like he's going through any dirt track car parks. I've been using this setup on 3 different cabs over the past 2 years and I will never be without it. Works quite well in parking lots. Now it will be limited if the cab weighed much more (50lbs+) or if used in unusually rough terrain, but otherwise it is quite up to the job. Edited March 10, 2020 by Low Class 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 My entire route from car to playing is pretty smooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onehandclapping Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 21 hours ago, fretmeister said: So you guys are telling me to buy the Super Twin then? I have a super twin and love it but I find it a bit awkward moving around especially up stairs...if the one 10 is doing the job I would probably stay with it...I have owned a one 10 ...what a great size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlefeeder Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 14 hours ago, Low Class said: From the OP: "Quick background - I play in at a music trust every Saturday, in 3 different ensembles. Each requires a room change so I have to move my gear every 50 mins or so. " Doesn't sound like he's going through any dirt track car parks. I've been using this setup on 3 different cabs over the past 2 years and I will never be without it. Works quite well in parking lots. Now it will be limited if the cab weighed much more (50lbs+) or if used in unusually rough terrain, but otherwise it is quite up to the job. 5 hours ago, fretmeister said: My entire route from car to playing is pretty smooth. Fair enough - my load-in is usually anything but smooth so it colours my view of the world. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pea Turgh Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Mottlefeeder said: Fair enough - my load-in is usually anything but smooth so it colours my view of the world. David And gives you double vision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlefeeder Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Pea Turgh said: And gives you double vision I wonder if that would help me learn double bass? David 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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