4000 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 hours ago, wateroftyne said: It was interesting to hear Mike talk so candidly, and quite brave of them to include it in the edit. I agree with all of this, but I would say Phil strikes me as the kind of person that wouldn’t do it unless he had to. I reckon he might need the cash. I actually think he would. He makes it very clear in his autobiography that he’s never been good at turning down work, sometimes to the detriment of his personal life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skb558 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) Flicked through the doc on my phone and must admit there are some goose pimple bits. My first gig was Stafford in ‘76 the last was Birmingham in ‘83 but I’m getting closer to buying a ticket for Leeds as the days go by, just for ‘closure’ . Edited September 8, 2021 by skb558 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 On 06/09/2021 at 17:55, dmccombe7 said: Think this song was used on a TV advert or something like that Levis IIRC. Awesome song. If they'd had an album of that quality, they could have been a British NirvJam... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skb558 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 On 07/09/2021 at 11:52, wateroftyne said: Every time Clarky says this, it’s like a dagger in my heart. You lucky duck. Hate to rub your nose in it Michael but 2 of my mates and I slept in a car on Wimbledon Common after the first gig at Earls Court and got tickets for a second night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 On 03/03/2020 at 16:55, wateroftyne said: Rumours of a 3-man reunion being announced tomorrow morning. Dates in November / December. Only rumours, but... rumours nonetheless. I can't lie, I'm slightly tentative about what it might be like given Phil's physical condition, but I'd go anyway. Tis a shame Peter Gabriel can’t be persuaded to take part for old times sake 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, skb558 said: Hate to rub your nose in it Michael but 2 of my mates and I slept in a car on Wimbledon Common after the first gig at Earls Court and got tickets for a second night. GAAAH.. stop it The thing is, they have tapes from the '77 tour. It's about time we got an expanded Seconds Out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Very sad IMO, Phil really should not be doing this, it's his choice obviously but he looks a poorly man https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-58508715 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveK Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, skidder652003 said: Very sad IMO, Phil really should not be doing this, it's his choice obviously but he looks a poorly man https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-58508715 Yeah, he looks quite frail! The band, doctors and insurers must feel confident that he is capable of completing the tour with no adverse effects. I haven't seen the tour schedule, so don't know how intense it is, but... The major stresses with tours of this nature is not so much the performing, but the lack of sleep due to different hotels (we all sleep better in our own beds), the travelling, the meet n greets, and the many interviews and general promo stuff. My guess is that Banks, Rutherford and everyone else involved will make sure that Phil is excused all that, and his load is made as light as possible. Edited September 10, 2021 by SteveK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I saw the BBC footage yesterday and found it incredibly sad and not a little upsetting. He looks incredibly frail and it really shocked me. I hope he’s going to be ok. Given how he appears, I suspect this really must be the last tour though, so I’m glad I’m going if only (as I’ve previously stated) to say goodbye. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skb558 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 For those that don’t already know, the PBS Documentary is on Sky Arts tomorrow evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveK Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Just read this in The Guardian. Have to say, this section makes for disappointing reading. It makes me think Phil's problems really aren't just physical. It does rather give the impression - as long as he shows up, he thinks all will be fine. This is what he said when asked by the reporter how he is preparing vocally for the tour... “I don’t do anything at all,” says Collins, as Banks and Rutherford look on, uneasy for the first time. “I don’t practise singing at home, not at all. Rehearsing is the practice. These guys are always having a go at me for not, but I have to do it this way." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 As an aside, I can recommend these books to any proper Genesis anoraks out there. Pretty in-depth and honest stuff from the band members. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 23 hours ago, wateroftyne said: As an aside, I can recommend these books to any proper Genesis anoraks out there. Pretty in-depth and honest stuff from the band members. Well that pretty much airbrushes Ray Wilson out of histoiry... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said: Well that pretty much airbrushes Ray Wilson out of histoiry... Have you read the book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, wateroftyne said: Have you read the book? No, but it's obvious it will cover the Ray Wilson period. The titles just chime with the popular view his period was an aberration. The Genesis equivalent of the Star Wars Holiday Special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said: No, but it's obvious it will cover the Ray Wilson period. The titles just chime with the popular view his period was an aberration. The Genesis equivalent of the Star Wars Holiday Special. Which it wasn’t far off, IMO. Not through any fault of his, mind. That period is covered in-depth, and Ray W. doesn’t pull any punches. It’s quite revealing. The author also acknowledges the inaccuracy of the title. Besides, ‘1975-2021: The Phil Collins and Ray Wilson years’ would have done PC a bit of an injustice, I think. Edited September 20, 2021 by wateroftyne 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skb558 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Anyone going to Birmingham tonight? Look forward to a review. Any other William Nomates going to Leeds next Tuesday and fancy a beer beforehand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, wateroftyne said: Besides, ‘1975-2021: The Phil Collins and Ray Wilson years’ would have done PC a bit of an injustice, I think. 1975-1996 1998-2021: The phil Collins years, 1996-1998: Amendum: the Ray Wilson years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munurmunuh Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Woodinblack said: 1975-1996 1998-2021: The phil Collins years, 1996-1998: Amendum: the Ray Wilson years. Interregnum could work, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 Tonight, tonight, tonight…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Come on, what was it like then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: Come on, what was it like then? No Reply at All? Please don't ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Setlist spoiler: Spoiler Got recent compilation "The Last Domino"? That's the setlist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 ^^^^ Which is the most ridiculous thing. Not sure who's crackpot idea that was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 ...and Nic Collins is an absolute BEAST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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