mcnach Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 As for adding additional features like pedal power supplies and compressors etc... I personally would rather not. It would add to the size and price, and I prefer a modular system where I mix and match the elements I want. I prefer the amplifier to stay small, and I'll choose which compressor (if any) to use, which power supply, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 42 minutes ago, mcnach said: As for adding additional features like pedal power supplies and compressors etc... I personally would rather not. It would add to the size and price, and I prefer a modular system where I mix and match the elements I want. I prefer the amplifier to stay small, and I'll choose which compressor (if any) to use, which power supply, etc. Agree about the compressors or other effects. Keep it simple! However if this avoids the need of having a separate isolated PSU for the rest of your pedals, given it is already mains powered that would be a big plus in my books - one mains lead per pedal board rather than two has gotta be welcome! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bam Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I saw one of these in pmt last week briefly. First impressions were that it was bigger and thicker than I'd expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 15 hours ago, la bam said: I saw one of these in pmt last week briefly. First impressions were that it was bigger and thicker than I'd expected. I misread that as PMQs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDaBass Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) Has anyone acquired one of these? What are the main differences between an Ant & a Newt? Update The Newt is not a Bass amp. ( 4 out of 10 for Homework DaBass, see me after class) Anyone compared with the Elf, BAM200 & Warwick Gnome? Edited January 19, 2021 by JohnDaBass Poor homework!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 15/01/2020 at 10:51, thodrik said: A brilliant idea, however for me, an amp should only be rated in accordance with continuous power. In which case this is a 140 watt amp. In a couple of years, I think that output power will be doubled or tripled. Unlikely. An SMPS and Class D amp together reach 80-85% efficiency. Even if they could somehow defy physics, that means today's 200w amp could reach maybe 235W-250W at 100% eficiency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Looking at the package made me think. It would make a great head amp. With the controls on top it would be easy to see and adjust. Easier than either a traditiaonl head or combo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, Chienmortbb said: Unlikely. An SMPS and Class D amp together reach 80-85% efficiency. Even if they could somehow defy physics, that means today's 200w amp could reach maybe 235W-250W at 100% eficiency. Apologies, I was not really looking at the the issue of efficiency. More that in the future I thought that it might be possible for manufacturers to create a pedalboard amp with a more powerful class d power section, rather than maximising the efficiency levels of the existing power section. Though at the moment this would require a larger footprint for the unit which would probably defeat the purpose of the product in the first place. As you say above though, I think that it would work better as a head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDaBass Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Chienmortbb said: Looking at the package made me think. It would make a great head amp. With the controls on top it would be easy to see and adjust. Easier than either a traditiaonl head or combo. Exactly my thoughts, the ANT would sit nicely on top of my BF One-10 with my Zoom B1-Four sitting on the LHS top of the ANT . A neat little rig methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDaBass Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 48 minutes ago, JohnDaBass said: Has anyone acquired one of these? What are the main differences between an Ant & a Newt? Anyone compared with the Elf, BAM200 & Warwick Gnome? Item 3 Just done some homework and it would appear that the Elf, BAM200 & Gnome could well be sourced from the same OEM/ODM vendor. The specs & dimensions are so close to one another there's only a Gnats C**k between them. (sorry for the analogy). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford13 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 So has anyone actually used one of these? I am thinking of putting this on a pedal train train nano + with hx stomp and mxr volume x mini. Possible perfect fly rig? Then ashdown abm 4x10 for some gigs, and getting some type of 1x10 for small gigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Hughes Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 To resurrect this thread - I have an ANT! Bought it a week or so back from fellow Basschatter PaulHornBass. Alas I have yet to take it out on a gig, but that will hopefully change soon, or at least with an orchestra rehearsal. Tone wise I'm diggin it - it's just nice and plain and simple - does what it says on the tin. One concern I have is that the fan is very loud indeed. Loud to the point of definitely not using that in the studio, and possibly not using that on theatre gigs. I've written to Ashdown asking if this is the norm or if it can be tamed in any way but am still waiting for a reply. Other than that I can see this amp getting a lot of use. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Hughes Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 And a further update - the good folks at Ashdown got back to me, Ant was sent to them on a Tuesday, back in the post by Friday and all is lovely and quiet with the fan. Quality unit, and quality service from Ashdown. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottswarwick Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 @Ashdown Engineering does this have a ground lift switch on the DI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 I'm probably missing the point, but if something is going on my pedal board I'd be expecting something stompable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted December 2, 2023 Author Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, MacDaddy said: I'm probably missing the point, but if something is going on my pedal board I'd be expecting something stompable. It’s an amp. Why would you want to stomp it? Do you turn your amp on and off while playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 53 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said: It’s an amp. Why would you want to stomp it? Do you turn your amp on and off while playing? My amp isn't on my pedal board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelDean Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 10 hours ago, MacDaddy said: I'm probably missing the point, but if something is going on my pedal board I'd be expecting something stompable. So, you're an international touring musician but you're not earning megabucks, nor do you have an endorsement where they'll send you stuff wherever. The band you're touring with don't use IEMs and you want to set up a small board (say the ANT, a Helix Stomp and a couple of other pedals) that you can fly with and use whatever cab is available. Enter the ANT. If it's on your pedalboard, and you've integrated the kettle lead with your pedal power, that's one thing to set up. Plug in speakon to the cab, power, jack. Job done. Controls are all with you, so you can fiddle from a distance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 On 20/01/2021 at 03:20, thodrik said: pedalboard amp Down on a pedal board is no place for an amp, especially one that is fan cooled. There are plenty of amps that you can plug a pedal board output into and take the DI out from the amp. Nobody mainstream builds a power block because there is no money in it. They are out there but not certified for hooking up to the grid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 13 hours ago, MacDaddy said: I'm probably missing the point, but if something is going on my pedal board I'd be expecting something stompable. I guess if you're using a passive cab as a monitor at the front of the stage it might be useful, or if you are doing pit work where you have a small cab close to you. Can't think of any other use cases for it really, probably better off saving your money and getting the smaller Gnome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Downunderwonder said: Down on a pedal board is no place for an amp, especially one that is fan cooled. There are plenty of amps that you can plug a pedal board output into and take the DI out from the amp. Nobody mainstream builds a power block because there is no money in it. They are out there but not certified for hooking up to the grid. I don’t disagree. Not quite sure why you quoted me given that the words ‘pedalboard amp’ is in the title of the topic and was the main selling point of the product in question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBass Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 16 hours ago, MacDaddy said: I'm probably missing the point, but if something is going on my pedal board I'd be expecting something stompable. I'm with you on this. I've had two non-stompable pedal shaped objects that run off a 9v supply and I've moved both of them on: The Tech 21 DI 2112 and the Rafferty HPF. Both seemed like a good idea when I bought them but in practice, both worked better on top of my cab, rather than at my feet. Yes, I could have made both work but there were easier solutions. I know the Ant is powered by 230v but still, knob twiddling is easier up on my cab, and then if it is up on my cab, there is no need for a pedal sized amp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 It's a hard road to satisfy bassists. Give them what they want and they complain it isn't what they want. Fan cooling means not at all water resistant. At least most pedals stand a pretty good chance of being ok in an accident involving a drunk and a jug of beer. If you watch the promo vid they are all about the touring and quiet stage folk. It sure does cover a lot of tasks in a small package. If you aren't concerned about roaming drunk jugs of beer it's a good shout as a 'pedalboard amp'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted December 3, 2023 Author Share Posted December 3, 2023 11 hours ago, Downunderwonder said: Down on a pedal board is no place for an amp, especially one that is fan cooled. . Who says so and why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Downunderwonder said: It's a hard road to satisfy bassists. Give them what they want and they complain it isn't what they want. Fan cooling means not at all water resistant. At least most pedals stand a pretty good chance of being ok in an accident involving a drunk and a jug of beer. If you watch the promo vid they are all about the touring and quiet stage folk. It sure does cover a lot of tasks in a small package. If you aren't concerned about roaming drunk jugs of beer it's a good shout as a 'pedalboard amp'. If you look at the pictures of the amp you will see that the ventilation slots are on the sides rather than the top of the amp, so liquid ingress would rely on the beer hurling itself sideways with sufficient velocity to place a sufficient quantity of it on the PCB to cause an issue, or crawling up the pots far enough to trickle down the spindles. One of our guitarists has a pedalboard amp which he either runs to a cab or DIs to the PA. It cuts the amount of gear he lugs in by one box. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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