PaulWarning Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Used my Ashdown at the weekend, I had it on 3/4 volume, 3 o clock, (gain on full) and it wasn't cutting thought that well, at half time I changed to my Trace 200 watt series 5, gain on full, volume on 2 out of 10 and boom, instant cut though. Are Trace amps really that much louder, is it a different type of volume control (i.e the Trace is on full at a lot lower setting), or is there something wrong with my Ashdown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudpup Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 8ohm or 4 ohm cab (s)? Did you have the shape engaged? I found it sucked too much mid out and became spongy with it in - it didn't sound so loud. Did you try it with the valve switched off? May be the valve dying on you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mudpup said: 8ohm or 4 ohm cab (s)? Did you have the shape engaged? I found it sucked too much mid out and became spongy with it in - it didn't sound so loud. Did you try it with the valve switched off? May be the valve dying on you? 4 ohm, I use two Fender V2 cabs, no shape engaged and valve switched off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) I have found that on the earlier ABMs that I’ve used that they seemed to need the volume pushed, which is very unlike the current 600 which is mahoosively loud from the off. Additionally in comparison to TE, I’ve always found them really loud and my theory is that that is due to the in-baked voicing - the TE sound just seems to hit a hi-mid frequency that is really audible, whereas the Ashdown stock sound seems less focused/biased in that area. Edited December 23, 2019 by Lozz196 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itu Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 If there is something you are not able to compare, it is the knobs. Depending on the designer the volume may follow the numbers, but usually not. You need some measuring equipment to define the output. If the gain is lower in another amp, the output is also much lower. Be open and use your ears while doing settings. Preamps have individual behaviour, and all settings are practically different. Show me two different brand amps that have similar eqs, and I will show you two similar 10" speakers... Don't even try, they just are different with similar marketing jargon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I have an all valve CTM100 and I found it lost power. I replaced all the preamp valves and the power/volume returned. If your amp has preamp valves it’s a good place to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2elliot Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I sent my old one back to Ashdown as some thing in the head became loose and it lost a massive amount of volume. It came back very quickly, fully repaired for free and was definitely loud. I then bought a IV, that was louder still... Give Ashdown a bell, they're very helpful.... probably in the New Year as I'm guessing they will on the razzle this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 sounds like it needs a simple service , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, 2elliot said: I sent my old one back to Ashdown as some thing in the head became loose and it lost a massive amount of volume. It came back very quickly, fully repaired for free and was definitely loud. I then bought a IV, that was louder still... Give Ashdown a bell, they're very helpful.... probably in the New Year as I'm guessing they will on the razzle this time of year. 22 minutes ago, Kevin Dean said: sounds like it needs a simple service , it did got back to Ashdown a few months ago to repair a fault on the valve drive, I'm assuming any fault would have been spotted then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2elliot Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 This is how I had my amp set up, at the time I think I was using a ridiculously powerful Spector... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyder Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Personal I would roll back the compression and in more mids. Hope this helps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 cheers guys, think I'll will try boosting the mids next time I use it, one of those situations where you can't really tell until doing a gig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudpup Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) On 23/12/2019 at 18:09, 2elliot said: This is how I had my amp set up, at the time I think I was using a ridiculously powerful Spector... You def need the mids back in I think. A lot of the perceived volume comes from them. And try it with the compressor out too - when I had one I thought it killed the dynamics too much. The other thing is try cranking the gain up and don't worry about the VU meter, just use your ears for signs of clipping the input. I had a Spector when I had my ABM500 and tbh I felt it wasn't a great pairing - the amp seemed happier with a more old school bass like a Precision with a bit more mid in the inherent tone. The Spector always sounded a bit dry and clanky to my ears. Edited December 24, 2019 by Mudpup 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) Don't forget about the effect of the Trace Elliot Groovillium.. Edited December 24, 2019 by TheGreek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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