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Anyone ever try those platform thingies ? 

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Is this the Eich?

I played on one at one of the LBGS with a drummer - every rimshot sent a shot up my legs.

Great gadget (£500+) but I'm pretty sure the novelty would wear off.

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36 minutes ago, Thunderpaws said:

What is it and what does it do?!

From what I can see, at £500 it makes you significantly poorer, but marginally taller.

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22 minutes ago, Lozz196 said:

From what I can see, at £500 it makes you significantly poorer, but marginally taller.

Like one of those books that will make you two inches taller...

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I'm sitting on mine right now!!

To be honest I think it's one of my best buys - it enables you to 'feel' the bass as if you're sitting in front of a massive speaker stack. I use mine as part of my studio/office setup for playing bass and listening to music. It helps with timing, feel, and it's nearly silent. I haven't used it 'live' yet but will be in a few weeks. 

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It’ll be of great benefit to all those who play an inanimate object such as a plank. For those who play a double bass there is no need. All the ‘feel’ you need is naturally transmitted through its body.

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Our drummer has the drummer's equivalent - a throne with the shaker built in. He always brings to rehearsals, and swears by it.

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5 minutes ago, paulmcnamara said:

I use the Grammar pad to good effect which tightens up the bass sound for around £40................!

Different thing - you stand on a bassboard :)

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8 minutes ago, paulmcnamara said:

Really!

I actually put a chair on mine and sit on it but yes - imagine it like standing on the grille of an upturned speaker cab. Feels awesome 

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I use a Porter & Davies Bass board on IEM gigs. We have no back line, everyone is DI'd (except drums & brass etc). The bass board is great as it gives me weight back into my sound thats missing from IEM's alone. It does sound like a gimmick, until you try it. 

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They are great. They put the feeling of big (even stadium sized) bass back into the room on a silent/large stage. Expensive, fairly big and heavy to carry around and can be quite complex to fit into the rig.

Both P&D and Eich are compromised on their amp front though. Maybe myself and @intime-nick will have something to offer up in due course.

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54 minutes ago, EBS_freak said:

They are great. They put the feeling of big (even stadium sized) bass back into the room on a silent/large stage. Expensive, fairly big and heavy to carry around and can be quite complex to fit into the rig.

Both P&D and Eich are compromised on their amp front though. Maybe myself and @intime-nick will have something to offer up in due course.

Come on where is it?!?! 

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Not much use if your on-stage movement is much more than bobbing up and down on the spot...

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What if you strut about the stage, Simon Gallup stylee? Need a whole stage worth of bass board flooring - may as well play on a thin hollow stage.

 

I remember playing a club in Spain where they'd boarded over an empty swimming pool to make the stage. The whole stage was bouncing up and down all gig.

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16 hours ago, EBS_freak said:

They are great. They put the feeling of big (even stadium sized) bass back into the room on a silent/large stage. Expensive, fairly big and heavy to carry around and can be quite complex to fit into the rig.

Both P&D and Eich are compromised on their amp front though. Maybe myself and @intime-nick will have something to offer up in due course.

I have a 2x400w 1u power amp I might try with mine, however I think driving it with a dedicated bass amp has the advantage of using a compressor before the board and also being able to EQ the response. I find treble does produce a sound from the board itself but not any extra ‘shake’ that I can feel - however soaking up the bass and low mids with the high and treble off produces a nice even rumble across the whole range plus its audibly quieter which is good for home use. 

I’m surprised these aren’t more commonplace given the trend towards IEMs. I remember at the LBGS last year people were fascinated by the one on the Eich stand. 

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1 minute ago, Twigman said:

What if you strut about the stage, Simon Gallup stylee? Need a whole stage worth of bass board flooring - may as well play on a thin hollow stage.

 

I remember playing a club in Spain where they'd boarded over an empty swimming pool to make the stage. The whole stage was bouncing up and down all gig.

I can’t remember who it was but when I was researching I saw a touring setup of six ‘Large’ bass boards on stage. I think it was Tony Levin or someone like that. Probably quite good if you’ve got decent roadies. 

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I play with 2 drummers who have the equivalent P&D drum stools and swear by them.

Probably a good idea, but I've been trying to minimize my kit lately, so I'll pass.

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1 hour ago, ped said:

I have a 2x400w 1u power amp I might try with mine, however I think driving it with a dedicated bass amp has the advantage of using a compressor before the board and also being able to EQ the response. I find treble does produce a sound from the board itself but not any extra ‘shake’ that I can feel - however soaking up the bass and low mids with the high and treble off produces a nice even rumble across the whole range plus its audibly quieter which is good for home use. 

I’m surprised these aren’t more commonplace given the trend towards IEMs. I remember at the LBGS last year people were fascinated by the one on the Eich stand. 

You are kind of there in the first paragraph... but there's something else missing...

The problem being is - IEM is all about portability of not carrying around a rig or monitors. If you then carry around something the size and weight of a bass board, you are keeping the stage quiet... but not minimising the gear that you are carrying. And bass boards... and associated amps... are heavy and not particularly portable.

And again, when a setup comes in closer to a grand... 

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5 minutes ago, EBS_freak said:

You are kind of there in the first paragraph... but there's something else missing...

The problem being is - IEM is all about portability of not carrying around a rig or monitors. If you then carry around something the size and weight of a bass board, you are keeping the stage quiet... but not minimising the gear that you are carrying. And bass boards... and associated amps... are heavy and not particularly portable.

And again, when a setup comes in closer to a grand... 

Yeah I guess so - I never move mine about but they have a nice big handle underneath so carrying it isn't too bad.

However everything else being equal, I still think I'd prefer an IEM and board setup than a big bass amp behind me at a gig. You can hear/feel yourself so much better (aware that sounds filthy)

Given the shape of the boards I don't think it would be too difficult for someone like Eich to make one with a power amp built in. Maybe they will.. they actually have a headphone out on the bottom so you could get by with that and a power chord if you wanted to (several times I've had only my bass in ear and balanced the level with the noise from he rest of the band)

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3 minutes ago, ped said:

Given the shape of the boards I don't think it would be too difficult for someone like Eich to make one with a power amp built in. Maybe they will.. they actually have a headphone out on the bottom so you could get by with that and a power chord if you wanted to (several times I've had only my bass in ear and balanced the level with the noise from he rest of the band)

Possibly - but mounting a power amp brings with it other issues. But that a side, there is something about the Eich design which fundamentally lets it down... but that's all I'm going to say on that front ;)

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