AndyTravis Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I’m getting a hint of this, with the control layout and partial cutout of the pickguard. It could’ve been a little bit nicer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted August 10, 2019 Author Share Posted August 10, 2019 On 08/08/2019 at 17:16, Al Krow said: Just had a very anodyne response from Fender (who acquired the Jackson brand along with its 2002 purchase of Charvel) along the lines of "not saying 'cos weights vary"... Can't believe I'm potentially heading back to a Fender bass, if I end up getting one of these 😁 But I need to wait for the weight. ...just asked the Fender sales rep who fobbed me off on the weight, to put just one of these basses (5ers) on the scale on the understanding that YMMV etc! If the weight of a bass is something we all feel entirely reasonable to ask each other when buying used basses, surely it's even more reasonable when we're paying a new bass 'premium' on top? Not sure why manufacturers can't understand that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Every bass will have some variance in relation to weight. Dingwall make a concerted effort to keep their basses under 4kg or at least that was the case with the Super P - it's pretty hard to give an exact figure for a full production run of a particular model what with wood being wood. Best thing to do is when you're buying one try a few in the shop and nab the one which best fit's your weight needs. Often as you've pointed out before you're happy to have a heavier bass of the balance is correct. 4.5kg is likely a good ball bark figure for a 5 string but by no means the standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted August 10, 2019 Author Share Posted August 10, 2019 That's fine if these basses were readily in stock. But seems to me you can only get one of these Jackson signatures if you specifically order one. Which I would be happy to do if I had rough idea of weight. Chicken and egg eh? We all appreciate that there will be some variation but it would be good to have a ball park idea to save wasting everyone's time. Complete aside: there's a lovely bubinga Warwick fretless in the FS but sadly it weighs as much as a neutron star... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrixn1 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Sweetwater (the USA retailer) are the only ones I've heard of who weigh each individual bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted August 10, 2019 Author Share Posted August 10, 2019 Just now, jrixn1 said: Sweetwater (the USA retailer) are the only ones I've heard of who weigh each individual bass. Ok cheers John, might be worth my getting in touch with them for a steer on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 26 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Ok cheers John, might be worth my getting in touch with them for a steer on this. They won’t sell to you though I don’t think - to do with Fenders worldwide dealer/distributor stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Horse Murphy Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I’ve had a couple of Charvel/Jacksons of the Pointy variety: in fact my main gigging bass is a Charvel 1B. Build quality is easily as good as anything else I’ve owned (if not better than most) and the versatility of the reverse P Pickup is remarkable. I’d highly recommend them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) Email Dave Ellefson or hit him up on twitter. I'm sure he'd be happy to help - was he going for a particular weight/consistency QC etc. Or ask PMT to get you one in to try when they're released. Money back 14 free rental and all that Edited August 10, 2019 by krispn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, jrixn1 said: Sweetwater (the USA retailer) are the only ones I've heard of who weigh each individual bass. Bass Direct do, as do The Bass Gallery Andertons do on some - mainly Dingwall. Peach do it on the more high end models Thomann and GuitarGuitar will get it out of the box and weigh it if you ask. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) Have now managed to coax a response out of Fender, who have confirmed that the weight should be less than 10lbs - they said "8lbs to 10lbs" to be precise but I suspect it will be nearer the top end of the range. That, for me, is fine - it would be a very similar weight to my Yamaha BB 1025. Hmmm so a new Jackson 5 or a used Legendary Spector? Decisions... 😄 Edited August 12, 2019 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Pointy headstock was better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Cuzzie said: Pointy headstock was better Controversial. On the one hand the new headstock might help widen Jackson's appeal to bring in more non metal oriented customers. On the other we're talking about a Megadeth signature bass so it's target market is probably pro pointy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cato said: Controversial. On the one hand the new headstock might help widen Jackson's appeal to bring in more non metal oriented customers. They’ve done non pointy ones before... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, AndyTravis said: They’ve done non pointy ones before... Looks like someone designed that with a hangover! Absolutely boggin'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, krispn said: Looks like someone designed that with a hangover! Absolutely boggin'! The jp6/jm6 were lovely looking - I could live with that weird headstock, the other (the name eludes me) looks a bit projecty... i do wonder if the jm/jp ever made production as I’ve honestly had my eyes open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, Cato said: Controversial. On the one hand the new headstock might help widen Jackson's appeal to bring in more non metal oriented customers. On the other we're talking about a Megadeth signature bass so it's target market is probably pro pointy. Not really - no less controversial than saying turdburst and tort look amazing or lashings of gold hardware on a bass make it look luxurious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, Cuzzie said: Not really - no less controversial than saying turdburst and tort look amazing or lashings of gold hardware on a bass make it look luxurious. Or that ric pickups in a jazz is a good idea 😉😂😂😂😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I should say I thought the head stock was boggin not the bass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, AndyTravis said: Or that ric pickups in a jazz is a good idea 😉😂😂😂😂 Exactly, which bell piece would ever consider doing that, only some absolute muppet. Its a bit like someone having a fetish for brown basses 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Some rick-ups in a jazz will be bangin! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, krispn said: I should say I thought the head stock was boggin not the bass. Headstock looks like someone who has a gluten allergy just went to the bakery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, krispn said: Some rick-ups in a jazz will be bangin! You may be right, whoever is thinking of doing that could just be a mad scientist genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cuzzie said: Exactly, which bell piece would ever consider doing that, only some absolute muppet. Its a bit like someone having a fetish for brown basses Caramel. Don’t even own it anymore. Cant wait to hear your graphite necked clang Machine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Not when I play it - i’ll Get someone good to demo - May even sound better than a fake Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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