Jump to content
Hobbayne

Down In The Sewer

Recommended Posts

JJB, massive inspiration to me. The aggressive sound way up in the mix and the great bass lines, brilliant.

Listening to Stuart Henry's punk show on Luxembourg 208 on Sunday evening in my dad's car, hearing Neat Neat Neat by the Damned and Peaches turned me on to music and made me want to play bass. Playing along with The Ramones showed me that I could do it too!

The Stranglers were so beyond the usual punk ethos, clever songs with tricksy timings, jagged guitar parts, flowing keyboard, great drum patterns, monster bass. At the time, I bundled them in with all the other punk stuff I was listening too as it came out but it was obvious they were different. 

Yes, that Golden period from Rattus up to Gospel are my favourites, with the odd one or two from after.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Not all Prog was as whimsical as Jon Anderson's Yes. Greenslade had songs about sado masicism, Animal Farm and corrupt journalists. The Prog bit was the length of the track, the sections, the keyboard solos etc. Even JJB's tone is pure Chris Squire. Labels don't always stand up to scrutiny. 

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
45 minutes ago, Bilbo said:

Not all Prog was as whimsical as Jon Anderson's Yes

Some was... Golf Girl. The Hare Who Lost His Spectacles. A Door Opens and Closes.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I’d be really interested to hear The Stranglers play a Yes track and vice versa. 😉

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, mentalextra said:

Jet explains about the 'punk' thing at @2:23.

Re the non-fight, I reckon JJB would have had ‘em all on his own. 😉 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, 4000 said:

Re the non-fight, I reckon JJB would have had ‘em all on his own. 😉 

I agree, although usually guys like JJ with huge martial arts abilities are rarely 'bated' into fighting? But JJ enjoys it!:D

Edited by mentalextra

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, mentalextra said:

I agree, although usually guys like JJ with huge martial arts abilities are rarely 'bated' into fighting? But JJ enjoys it!:D

I have a mate who’s a 4th Dan Taekwondo, trains MMA, and loves a scrap. 

Me, I’m a lover, not a fighter. 😂

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Cosmo Valdemar said:

Release, Release I reckon.

Good call. I can’t get an original line up Stranglers doing Close to the Edge out of my head though!

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Early Stranglers, to me, are just plain old rock, but it's very clear they rode the punk wave, and intentionally so. In fact, in their earlier incarnations a few years before their breakthrough they were decidedly more mellow. Strange Little Girl, for example, began as an early demo from this period. B&W would be easy to classify as post-punk, but so would an awful lot of albums from 1978 that don't necessarily sound like one another. Raven and Gospel are damn near art rock. Then, onward through the 80's they were more of a pop band than anything else, really. 

For whatever it's worth, Dagenham Dave's other favourite bands were Genesis and The Tubes! 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
31 minutes ago, Low End Bee said:

I'd like to see Yes do this...

 

Yes could totally do that. Nothing especially heavy or hard rocking about that. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Change Jon for Hugh, bob’s your uncle. 😉😂

Edited by 4000
  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The Stranglers never actually described themselves as punks and back in the day never denied it either. They do now though. But who cares about labels?

I like The Stranglers. JJ was one of my inspirations to play bass. Has anyone mentioned 'London Lady' yet.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, mentalextra said:

I like The Stranglers. JJ was one of my inspirations to play bass. Has anyone mentioned 'London Lady' yet.

Only in relation to the not-exactly-PC nature of the lyrics!

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Leonard Smalls said:

Not unless they got a decent singer!

 

I love the Stranglers, but Hugh was hardly Pavarotti was he? 😂

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, 4000 said:

I love the Stranglers, but Hugh was hardly Pavarotti was he? 😂

I think he did a pretty good job on 'golden brown'?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 hours ago, mentalextra said:

I think he did a pretty good job on 'golden brown'?

Passable, yes. Pavarotti-esque, not really. 😉😂

Whilst I’m aware Jon’s voice is extremely polarising, I’m a bit surprised anyone can think Hugh is actually a better singer technically.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, 4000 said:

Whilst I’m aware Jon’s voice is extremely polarising, I’m a bit surprised anyone can think Hugh is actually a better singer technically.

While he may be able to hit a note, I'd prefer the sound of a screaming baby with an airhorn scraping a metal gauntlet down a 100 foot blackboard to that Yes geezer!

 

  • Haha 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
52 minutes ago, Leonard Smalls said:

While he may be able to hit a note, I'd prefer the sound of a screaming baby with an airhorn scraping a metal gauntlet down a 100 foot blackboard to that Yes geezer!

 

And that’s absolutely your choice to make. 😁

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

JOn Anderson's problem is he only has one gear he uses regularly - 'whimsical'.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Stub Mandrel said:

JOn Anderson's problem is he only has one gear he uses regularly - 'whimsical'.

I think Jon’s main problem for most is that he’s way too obviously “hippy”.

Oddly, he’s one of very few high-voiced male singers that I really like (Yes being my favourite band), although even I’ll admit it took a while at first. 

Unlike say Axl Rose, who to me sounds very much like a screaming baby with an airhorn scraping a metal gauntlet down a 100 foot blackboard. 😉

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 hours ago, 4000 said:

Passable, yes. Pavarotti-esque, not really. 😉😂

Whilst I’m aware Jon’s voice is extremely polarising, I’m a bit surprised anyone can think Hugh is actually a better singer technically.

But to be fair to Hugh, the stranglers songs often require that sort of 'angry shouty yob voice' (JJ was good at that), rather than pavarotti:D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.



×
×
  • Create New...