Quilly Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Saw an elderly couple part ways with a pre-cbs 1964 fender jaguar for £1050 quid. It was their sons and the auctioneer told them to put a reserve of £400 on it. Naturally they were thrilled but then were completely robbed. I though it was really bad form of the Beeb. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mentalextra Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Its all set up though isnt it. The bit filmed in the auction hall always looks fake. Pretend bidders etc? Maybe i'm wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 I don’t watch it much tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonse Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Cringe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Watch it occassionally when nothing else on and its pissin down outside but you always take a risk at any auction. They really should have taken it to a musical equipment auction if they wanted a better price. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 It's all about ratings. Beeb are the same as ITV making Kyle and these home make-over shows. It's got absolutely NOTHING to do with "helping" members of the public. It's all about doing a show that gets ratings and filling time between the ads and the News. Even Ebay is more likely to get a more true price for the bass, but it's not going to get the viewers excited, they'd rather see all the family "silver" go in a sale room with hands going up and hammers and such. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leschirons Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) Considering the guy that presents it, Paul Martin, was a session drummer who'd worked with the Average white band and Dogs D'amour, and still plays apparently , you'd think he'd be a little more savvy on vintage instrument prices. Fair enough, he's a drummer, but you'd imagine he'd at least suggest a valuation from someone in the know so to speak. Edited May 17, 2019 by leschirons Left something out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 No, @leschirons, his loyalty is bought and paid for with about £10k per show. The production company wouldn't be excited about following him around the country on a wild goose chase for a price for "some old guitar". After all, it's not like it was played by Brian May. Plus its not even got 6 strings! Just look how often the bass player is on camera on music shows. Often they even show the lead guitar when the bass is playing a solo! Sorry, I'm very cynical about TV. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I haven't seen the program but if it was a pre-CBS Jaguar, it was a 6-string guitar. The bass didn't come along until much later, early 2000s? and originated in Japan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, pete.young said: I haven't seen the program but if it was a pre-CBS Jaguar, it was a 6-string guitar. The bass didn't come along until much later, early 2000s? and originated in Japan. Yes it was a guitar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleOhStephan Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 They definitely should have advised the couple to place it in a specialist guitar auction. A 1963 example sold by Gardiner Houlgate reached £2,400 in December - https://guitar-auctions.co.uk/portfolio-post/lot-236-1963-fender-jaguar-electric-guitar-made-in-usa/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 58 minutes ago, pete.young said: I haven't seen the program but if it was a pre-CBS Jaguar, it was a 6-string guitar. The bass didn't come along until much later, early 2000s? and originated in Japan. 47 minutes ago, Quilly said: Yes it was a guitar Sorry, i have to confess to having not see the program either. I'm just being a cynic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Is Arthur Negus still on it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicko Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, leschirons said: Considering the guy that presents it, Paul Martin, was a session drummer who'd worked with the Average white band and Dogs D'amour, and still plays apparently , you'd think he'd be a little more savvy on vintage instrument prices. Fair enough, he's a drummer, but you'd imagine he'd at least suggest a valuation from someone in the know so to speak. Paul Martin is one of those people tht you watch on TV and wonder how he ever got a job presenting. I hope he's more talented as a musician than he is as a personality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslapper Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, stewblack said: Is Arthur Negus still on it? Only if Taxidermy becomes popular again 🥴 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, oldslapper said: Only if Taxidermy becomes popular again 🥴 Taxidermy isn't popular any more? Edited May 17, 2019 by stewblack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Caveat vendor. Whilst the Beeb isn't out to do Joe and Janet Public any favours, people only have themselves to blame if they don't get a proper appraisal on any musical instrument, painting, etc before selling it. You don't have to be Einstein to work out that an auction room full of furniture and bric a brac collectors in Stow on the Wold isn't the best place in the world to sell an electric guitar... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslapper Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, stewblack said: Taxidermy isn't popular any more? It recently took a stuffing 🤦🏻♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurhenry Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Grangur said: Just look how often the bass player is on camera on music shows. Often they even show the lead guitar when the bass is playing a solo! Sorry, I'm very cynical about TV. A bass solo on a TV show? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I have friends that work on bargain hunt, I pointed out once that the logic of the show makes no sense, buy from a shop or fayre at full retail price then put it into a random auction to try and get more for it than they paid in the shop! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleOhStephan Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, stingrayPete1977 said: I have friends that work on bargain hunt, I pointed out once that the logic of the show makes no sense, buy from a shop or fayre at full retail price then put it into a random auction to try and get more for it than they paid in the shop! TV? Logic? Sense? 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 Well I complained anyway to the BBC like an old busybody 👨🦳 anyway. You never know. Put on the guilt trip 🤣🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Quilly said: Well I complained anyway to the BBC like an old busybody 👨🦳 anyway. You never know. Put on the guilt trip 🤣🤣 Good on you, the advice given was poor to say the least. Yes the sellers could have done some research but I’m sure that’s what they thought they were getting from that auctioneer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Its the luck of the draw when you put something in an auction. All depends on who's there buying. Based on what's been said i would have expected the reserve to be higher. They have a lot of behind the scenes evaluators before people go on camera to sell or auction it. I once complained to the BBC but they simply fluffed a response to me with no facts or real evidence. For me BBC is simply an untrustworthy company that i do try and avoid as much as possible but sometimes there's nowt else on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 9 hours ago, oldslapper said: Only if Taxidermy becomes popular again 🥴 Get stuffed 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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