drTStingray Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Teebs said: Mr. Miyagi Why is he pretending to be Eddie Jordan??? 🤗 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Ricky 4000 said: Bernie is totally good looking. Have you seen the cool little beard he's sporting this year? Alternatively, I do wonder what Jean Tod's Mrs sees in him... Fair one, me too ... but the analogy stands on grounds that it was a suddenly modern design, that didn't last long in production. Did any of you drive that thing? The weird steering wheel that was an attempt at emulating an F1 steering wheel? I did, in the late '80s. Awful car.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NikNik Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, Ricky 4000 said: Sorry, on the moby and can't make that out for sure. Is that a frottage session in the KitKatKlub in Berlin?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 4000 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, NikNik said: Did any of you drive that thing? The weird steering wheel that was an attempt at emulating an F1 steering wheel? I did, in the late '80s. Awful car.... Don't think I ever drove one, but I remember the square steering wheel (and hydro-elastic suspension?) ... and the VDP version, with all that burr walnut veneer... was it one of the first hatchback cars though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 4000 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, NikNik said: Sorry, on the moby and can't make that out for sure. Is that a frottage session in the KitKatKlub in Berlin?? Possibly! Here's Jean, having a day off with his mrs... she's clearly very fond of him: Edited May 10, 2019 by Ricky 4000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ricky 4000 said: Possibly! Here's Jean, having a day off with his mrs... she's clearly very fond of him: Phuq, I thought that was Phillip Green in the other photo that you posted! I need to go to Specsavers. Cool T-shirt, though. Floyd '77. Edited May 10, 2019 by NikNik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, Ricky 4000 said: Don't think I ever drove one, but I remember the square steering wheel (and hydro-elastic suspension?) ... and the VDP version, with all that burr walnut veneer... was it one of the first hatchback cars though? It looked like a hatch, but the glass was fixed and it had a small boot like a saloon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, drTStingray said: My own view is we should just get on and enjoy the wonderful instruments and ignore the individuals ^ A perfectly reasonable point of view and very well expressed ^ You may therefore wish to avoid the various Gibson threads on BC where for years some of us have been whaling on Mr Henry Juskiewiecz's ar$e like it was a dinner gong. By comparison, Mr Hall's had it easy. Edited May 10, 2019 by skankdelvar 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Ricky 4000 said: the VDP version Wasn't the Van Den Plas schtick basically about welding bad copies of Rolls Royce radiator grilles onto Morris Marinas or something? Asking for a friend. Edited May 10, 2019 by skankdelvar 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 4000 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, skankdelvar said: Wasn't the Van Den Plas schtick basically about welding bad copies of Rolls Royce radiator grilles onto Morris Marinas or something? Asking for a friend. That and picnic tables on the back of the front seats. Tell your friend he's awesome. 😎 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drTStingray Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ricky 4000 said: That and picnic tables on the back of the front seats. Tell your friend he's awesome. 😎 The Allegro was introduced in 1973 (or maybe 74) and stayed in production until replaced by the Maestro in about 1983. They were pretty popular but the square steering wheel (I think it was called quartic) was deeply unpopular and was dropped for a standard one after a couple of years. Believe it or not the Allegro 1750 SS was the epitome of a boy racer's dream in 1974 - I know - I went and looked at one - but they were eclipsed by the Golf GTI a couple of years later. Vanden Plas made luxury versions of BMC cars as well as limos and then BL ones - the Allegro was possibly the worst looking of all - it's predecessor - the Vanden Plas 1300 was much nicer!! They had full leather and in some cases an upgraded engine (including one with a Rolls Royce 4 litre). The grille looks abominable on the Allegro - all the other badge engineered saloons like MG disappeared in 1973/4 - presumably BL had a financial stake in VDP and its workshops. There is a parallel here between the hatred for JH and the chairman of BL, Lord Stokes - he scrapped the Mini Cooper, fitted hideous bumpers to the MGB for the US market among lots of other hated decisions - the Graham Taylor (in England manager guise) of car company chairmen. Edited May 10, 2019 by drTStingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 37 minutes ago, drTStingray said: The Allegro was introduced in 1973 (or maybe 74) and stayed in production until replaced by the Maestro in about 1983. They were pretty popular but the square steering wheel (I think it was called quartic) was deeply unpopular and was dropped for a standard one after a couple of years. Believe it or not the Allegro 1750 SS was the epitome of a boy racer's dream in 1974 - I know - I went and looked at one - but they were eclipsed by the Golf GTI a couple of years later. Vanden Plas made luxury versions of BMC cars as well as limos and then BL ones - the Allegro was possibly the worst looking of all - it's predecessor - the Vanden Plas 1300 was much nicer!! They had full leather and in some cases an upgraded engine (including one with a Rolls Royce 4 litre). The grille looks abominable on the Allegro - all the other badge engineered saloons like MG disappeared in 1973/4 - presumably BL had a financial stake in VDP and its workshops. There is a parallel here between the hatred for JH and the chairman of BL, Lord Stokes - he scrapped the Mini Cooper, fitted hideous bumpers to the MGB for the US market among lots of other hated decisions - the Graham Taylor (in England manager guise) of car company chairmen. I thought the point with JH was that he’s changed nothing. He’d have put a square steering wheel on a car and tell everyone to go f**k themselves for 30 years 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Billy Apple said: He’d have put a square steering wheel on a car and being Rickenbacker, square wheels 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Ricky 4000 said: Possibly! Here's Jean, having a day off with his mrs... she's clearly very fond of him: To Debbie McGee: "And what first attracted you to the millionaire Paul Daniels?" Mrs Merton 1995 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 4000 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) I don't think Rics have ever looked "ahead of their time", while the Allegro looks (to me), better now than it did back in the day... maybe that's the same as the Fender Performer Series? Edited May 10, 2019 by Ricky 4000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 To me, Rics are like '50s Cadillacs: space-aged looking at the time, fins, sharp bits & excessive chrome, wallowing all over the shop. Pretty, but wholly impractical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 4000 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, Teebs said: To me, Rics are like '50s Cadillacs: space-aged looking at the time, fins, sharp bits & excessive chrome, wallowing all over the shop. Pretty, but wholly impractical. Wholly worth having a bit of forearm flesh removed to fit the Rickenbacker, IMHO. 😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drTStingray Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 37 minutes ago, Teebs said: and being Rickenbacker, square wheels Hang on a minute - lest anyone forget Fender invented the wheel along with the inaccessible truss rod and other engineering marvels - however if their instruments required wheels they would be true to vintage as everyone knows solid tyres are best - none if this new dangled pneumatic rubbish 😏 To me the look of the Rickenbacker bass has something of the Art Deco and gothic going on all at once - it's extremely cool in my view. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Billy Apple said: I thought the point with JH was that he’s changed nothing. He’d have put a square steering wheel on a car and tell everyone to go f**k themselves for 30 years Actually, the 4001/4003 evolved over the years; RIC did introduce other models, but folks just bought the classics anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyman Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Ricky 4000 said: I don't think Rics have ever looked "ahead of their time", while the Allegro looks (to me), better now than it did back in the day... maybe that's the same as the Fender Performer Series? Weirdly there does seem to be a hint of the Alfa MiTo in that shape. You could never drive one though - you'd never see past the lady footballist on the bonnet. The wipers must comb her hair when it rains and the screen wash must be like a bidet. Not the most practical of accessories..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyman Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Teebs said: ......, wallowing all over the shop. Pretty, but wholly impractical. You just described my teenage years. Well, apart from the word 'pretty' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 4000 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Skinnyman said: Weirdly there does seem to be a hint of the Alfa MiTo in that shape. You could never drive one though - you'd never see past the lady footballist on the bonnet. The wipers must comb her hair when it rains and the screen wash must be like a bidet. Not the most practical of accessories..... Too late. Soon as I bought the car, the girl used that picture for a "crash for cash" claim against me. She's saying I rammed into her from behind... 😕 Edited May 10, 2019 by Ricky 4000 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Skinnyman Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 55 minutes ago, Ricky 4000 said: Too late. Soon as I bought the car, the girl used that picture for a "crash for cash" claim against me. She's saying I rammed into her from behind... 😕 It actually looks like a young Bonnie Tyler on the bonnet making the whole thing perfectly feasible. For once I believe you, Ricky.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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