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We used Xvive, Line 6 G10s and G30, a  Carvin UHF system, and the Shure GLXD16.  The guitarist with the Xvive now uses the Shure.  I still use the G10s, and the other guitarist uses the G30.  Our experiences:

1- too many drop outs on the Xvive.

2- Both the G10s and the G30 can be susceptible to dropouts, but staying close and watching what is near the receivers is key to minimizing it.

3- The G10s auto channel select doesn't work well when other 2.4ghz wireless units are in the band. For the auto select to work, all the other units need to be up and transmitting.  I gave up and coordinate with the G30 guy on the channel selection.

4- The G30 eats batteries.  The guitarist usually turns off the transmitter frequently.

5- I've broken the G10s transmitter because it's rigid unit unlike the swivel capability of the Xvive.

6- The sleep mode of the G10s transmitter can be a pain if you have pauses between songs on a set.  Worship bands as an example.

7- The Shure works the best, but it's also the most expensive one. I guess you can say you get what you pay for when it comes to wireless systems.  More money, less hassles.

8- Digital sounds better than the old analog Carvin UHF system.

9- Also buy a 2.4ghz system that can use frequencies outside of Wifi channels 1-11.  If you are in a region that allows channels 12 and 13, I don't know what you can do, but kept the receiver close, and not near any other wireless systems.

 

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Well, looks like I am looking for something new today. The hinge on this had always been a bit loose, which is why it was in a harness thing with a reversed jack to jack, but didn't stop it falling apart mid gig (but luckily, at the end of a song)

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I think so! To be honest, I needed something I could access the batteries better anyway

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12 minutes ago, Woodinblack said:

I think so! To be honest, I needed something I could access the batteries better anyway

get the project box search on the go... and take the opportunity to switch to AA so you can use some decent capacity eneloops (and lets face it, AAs are easier to source in an emergency!)

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Talked to smoothound, and for £20 they replaced all the metalwork (and the broken plastic cover I noticed, but didn't mention that) and posted it back to me. Its like new now, which is nice as I didn't but it new so it is the best it has ever been!

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I have the Xvive and I must say that it is difficult to change the battery when it is dead (after 3 years). Contacted, Xvive asks me 100 € to change the battery which costs less than 10 € on the net. Here is a video link to change the battery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w4pBKW8vjk
 You have to be meticulous. I dismantled mine and will order 2 batteries. But I also finally ordered a Smoothhound. Prefer to buy a system with screws, not sealed.

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I opted for the Boss WL-20 because I didn't want the hassle of plugging in the receiver unit power supply, no problems so far I've used it with various passive basses, and electro acoustic guitar (built in preamp) and an electric guitar, did suffer latency issues when recording with it though,  top one is the click track, middle one is recording the click track with a mic,  bottom one is with the Boss unit in the mic loop

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These 5.8GHz units were on sale for £42-ish last week so I ordered a set. A friend of mine lives in dense apartment housing in New York and says the 2.4GHz units are unusable there. Only home use so far, but seem to work well with no interference and it’s nice to not have to worry about wires when playing in the house.

ammoon 5.8G Wireless Guitar...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07MCHF99P?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

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34 minutes ago, therealting said:

These 5.8GHz units were on sale for £42-ish last week so I ordered a set. A friend of mine lives in dense apartment housing in New York and says the 2.4GHz units are unusable there. Only home use so far, but seem to work well with no interference and it’s nice to not have to worry about wires when playing in the house.

ammoon 5.8G Wireless Guitar...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07MCHF99P?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Excellent, working on an excuse to need a second wireless system. 

Nearly there... 

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19 minutes ago, stewblack said:

Excellent, working on an excuse to need a second wireless system. 

Nearly there... 

Well, if it helps, I really like the fact that with this unit, you don’t need to power the receiver from the mains or a board either. Charge both transmitter and receiver using a double-headed USB cable, then plug directly into output jack and input jack and switch on. 

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1 hour ago, therealting said:

Well, if it helps, I really like the fact that with this unit, you don’t need to power the receiver from the mains or a board either. Charge both transmitter and receiver using a double-headed USB cable, then plug directly into output jack and input jack and switch on. 

definitely helping 

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I have the Boss WL20L, but I cannot recommend it.

The sound and latency are fine.I like that the units are small and battery powered, so I switch them easily between amps and basses.

But in my home studio I have frequent problems with dropouts.

I looks like whenever something is in the line-of-sight between transmitter and receiver, things will go wrong.
It happens when the receiver is in the amp in the back of the room (3 meters) and I play while looking at the scores on the laptopscreen, so my body is in the line-of-sight. But it also happens frequently when the receiver is in the Helix Stomp sitting on my desk, a distance of about 1 meter, but the transmitter slightly below the edge of the desk.

 

 

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Must admit at home i do seem to get more dropouts with my Boss WL20 (and 20L when i had it). More than with my Xvive in the same position. 

For gigs and rehearsals the Boss is fine though. Must be because i tend to play at home close to my router. 

My guitarist uses Xvive and he doesn’t have cut outs.

What  i don’t like about the Xvive is how it effects the low, quiet notes. I rarely use a rig at home but last year i got a few new cabs so tried them out at low level at home. Each time i used my Xvive (as that’s what i use at home). Playing a quiet (as in plucking softly) a low F# or G produces a buzz/noise on those notes as they are dying out. It’s definitely the Xvive as swapping to my Boss or a cable eliminates the issue 100%. It’s almost like the cab has a lose screw vibrating. Now i dont use the Xvive outside the house. 

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1 hour ago, therealting said:

I think that’s where the 5.8GHz and other non-2.4GHz units have an advantage. 

With the drops outs maybe, but the.systems like the Xvive seem to be using quite low quality chips so sound quality will suffer, although not always noticeable I guess. 

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