therealting Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 10 hours ago, fender 68 said: People must really stupid .. do you really think any shop would pay a lot of money for a fake or stolen guitar and then put it on line so everyone could see it ? Quite clearly they would have a expert look over it and be 100 % sure that the person they were buying it off is ok and it was there item to sell . you really have to wonder if people use common sense sometimes I got a stolen pedalboard back from Cash Converters once. But yes, I really do wonder if people use common sense sometimes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 10 hours ago, fender 68 said: People must really stupid .. do you really think any shop would pay a lot of money for a fake or stolen guitar and then put it on line so everyone could see it ? Quite clearly they would have a expert look over it and be 100 % sure that the person they were buying it off is ok and it was there item to sell . you really have to wonder if people use common sense sometimes I can just imagine the queue of £ucking crack head experts lining up out CC to see how much money they could make out of a stolen vintage Fender. Are you for real? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megwegpeg Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 hours ago, ped said: Bedminster You mean Bedminster maaaaaate 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 17 hours ago, fender 68 said: do you really think any shop would pay a lot of money for a fake or stolen guitar It’s not called Crack Converters for nothing, around my way it’s the first place people look if anything is stolen 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merello Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Still there.... https://www.cashconverters.co.uk/Bristol-Bedminster/products Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukulelelab Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 yes they also had that nice blue sparkle '64 P. Lovely stuff https://www.cashconverters.co.uk/shop/product/fender-precision-bass-guitar-p-bass-1964-pre-cbs/227699 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burns-bass Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 They had a reasonably nice Antigua Precision in there too. All instruments came from Steve at Electric Ladyland apparently, so there’s half a chance they’re legit (and a 50% chance they’re fake). I explained to the manager that charging Denmark Street prices was a bit much, but he wasn’t really up for discussion. Seemed a nice guy though, and I reckon would be happy for you to take the bass apart and get it professionally appraised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakester Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 On 01/03/2019 at 18:40, Old Horse Murphy said: One of my mates actually managed to prise a Warwick Corvette 5 String from him once but I reckon they was a one-off. Interesting chap indeed Lol - I remember that. Nick and I took a long walk up there and it’s not a hugely salubrious area, and managed to catch him when he was awake. I seem to recall it took another two trips to get him to part with it though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, ukulelelab said: yes they also had that nice blue sparkle '64 P. Lovely stuff https://www.cashconverters.co.uk/shop/product/fender-precision-bass-guitar-p-bass-1964-pre-cbs/227699 That does look nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Well, I had a browse and came across this"mixer", which has an interesting description... https://www.cashconverters.co.uk/shop/product/audio-mixer-alesis/1016973 Quote Description GRAB YOURSELF THIS AMAZING BUY WITH THIS SECOND HAND ALESIS AUDIO MIXER. DOES NOT COME BOXED OR WITH ANY ACCESSORIES. TAKES FLOPPY DESK BUTTON FUNCTIONS ON AUDIO AT JUST £24.99, DONT MISS OUT ON A GREAT BUY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 On 30/10/2020 at 14:37, fender 68 said: People must really stupid .. do you really think any shop would pay a lot of money for a fake or stolen guitar and then put it on line so everyone could see it ? Quite clearly they would have a expert look over it and be 100 % sure that the person they were buying it off is ok and it was there item to sell . you really have to wonder if people use common sense sometimes Some people might say that's their business model... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_lefty Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 When I sold some home electrical to a cash converters they took a photo of me and photocopied my ID. I bet people who are stupid enough to nick stuff are stupid enough to take the risk of getting caught like that. I also took them an electric guitar when I was a student, the way they valued it was to see what something vaguely similar sold for on ebay. They offered me less than the pickups were worth for the whole guitar. I didn't sell it to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Is the sort of person with 13 large to spend liable to shop in Cash Converters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_lefty Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 7 hours ago, Bassfinger said: Is the sort of person with 13 large to spend liable to shop in Cash Converters? Depends if they are looking for a highly collectible bass guitar or not, I guess. If it was "the one" you were looking for and the price was right wouldn't you go for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, uk_lefty said: Depends if they are looking for a highly collectible bass guitar or not, I guess. If it was "the one" you were looking for and the price was right wouldn't you go for it? It’s a very big ‘if’ though. But assume it’s real, you’d still have to be mad, buy from a vintage dealer you have expertise that build your trust. You also have written assurances re provenance and legally enforceable comeback if those prove to be incorrect (the former helps your resale value considerably). But even given this, folks here who’ve dabbled in the vintage market will know how murky it is even among reputable dealers. But buy a 50’s Fender from Cash Converters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_lefty Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Beedster said: It’s a very big ‘if’ though. But assume it’s real, you’d still have to be mad, buy from a vintage dealer you have expertise that build your trust. You also have written assurances re provenance and legally enforceable comeback if those prove to be incorrect (the former helps your resale value considerably). But even given this, folks here who’ve dabbled in the vintage market will know how murky it is even among reputable dealers. But buy a 50’s Fender from Cash Converters? Yeah I know... I agree it is very odd to see it there. The person who sold it will have been given sweet FA compared to its value and told to feel grateful for it. Still, if you wanted it, checked it out and it was the real deal then why not buy it from there? Probably just as risky as buying off eBay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, uk_lefty said: Yeah I know... I agree it is very odd to see it there. The person who sold it will have been given sweet FA compared to its value and told to feel grateful for it. Still, if you wanted it, checked it out and it was the real deal then why not buy it from there? Probably just as risky as buying off eBay I doubt it's that simple, I don't know how CC works but is the seller assured they can buy it back for something close to the sale price plus some commission? If so, it's a way of getting through a tough time financially and being able to buy back the instrument? Either way, and just to be clear, I'd say that all the same issues I've raised above would be a factor with anyone except a specialist business seller on eBay, Reverb etc - and even on BC - unless that is it was a private seller recognised as an authority on vintage instruments (there's a few on BC of course). I think we've all agreed in various threads on the forum that there are probably a lot of people out there who have paid over the odds for non-original and/or inauthentic vintage instruments, many of whom are likely completely unaware of the issues. You don't have to be dishonest to advertise a non-original/inauthentic vintage instrument, sometimes just not as expert as you need to be and unlucky enough - having bought one in good faith - to find yourself needing to sell it, which is not a great time to find that it's not worth what you thought. But this is also something that all buyers need to be aware of, as sadly, a 100% honest and trustworthy seller does not equal an all original authentic instrument. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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