ubit Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, MoJo said: To me Geddy's current tone is very 'Marmite'. I'm afraid I don't like it at all. I'm a big Rush/Geddy fan and have been so since the late 70's but much prefer his bass tone on the earlier albums, up to Moving Pictures, to the tone he uses these days I guess you are right, although I love his sound, I hate Marmite! 🤢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I have a very eclectic taste in bass sounds, just as I have a very eclectic taste in music. I like many different tones, but admit to having a penchant for a dirty tone that is just right , without too much fuzz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech21NYC Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Like all our SansAmps the output is low impedance and is designed for direct use. There is no XLR connection though. If connectivity is an issue you can either use a 1/4" to XLR adapter or any inexpensive DI will work. As mentioned most mixing consoles and interfaces can accommodate TS, TRS and XLR connections. Usually the issue for live is most snakes don't offer combo inputs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 23 hours ago, ubit said: There is a Tech 21 Sans Amp Geddy Lee preamp on the market. This is the pedal version of it. I saw it on the internet and there is no mention of it anywhere. I am hoping it is to be showcased at the NAMM show soon and will be hopefully unleashed on us mere mortals soon after. I might add that the source of the leak is a Tech 21 showcase artist, so I'm believing it to be true Just had it confirmed. It is to be showcased at NAMM! 🤸♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 @Tech21NYCSnakes live? sounds dangerous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickJ Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 @Tech21NYC I assume this will be formally announced at Namm but any information on avaibility here in the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech21NYC Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Yes, it will be announced at NAMM. The unit is expected to ship in May for the US and Europe. If you keep in eye on our Facebook page that's where most updated information is. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 23 hours ago, ubit said: Just had it confirmed. It is to be showcased at NAMM! 🤸♂️ Geddy really ought to be there! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterimage Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 https://bassmusicianmagazine.com/2019/01/tech-21-again-partners-with-geddy-lee-for-signature-sansamp-yyz-pedal/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Ive been following the Talkbass thread about this. I cant see why this is being released. It doesnt even have XLR out. Looks like a cut down VTBass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 You can still run a 1/4”, TRS or whatever to a desk. Doesnt need to have an XLR, it’s hopefully nailed the Geddy rack pre-amp in a smaller format. Totally understand its release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, dave_bass5 said: Ive been following the Talkbass thread about this. I cant see why this is being released. It doesnt even have XLR out. Looks like a cut down VTBass. It's being released simply because there's been big demand for a pedal version of the Geddy preamp. Can't really call it a cut down VT Bass as that doesn't have a DI either! This will sound pretty different to the VT anyway, blending 2 signal paths in parallel, sounds to me like it will bring some of the benefits of the Dug pedal (clean lows, distorted top) but without the gaping hole in the midrange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 http://www.tech21nyc.com/products/sansamp/geddylee_yyz.html?fbclid=IwAR3MD3JByYoasZrBCTbPXJdmNBhmxX-Hrp8breL-UAqKxAfHpbdMSCvbhaY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 10 hours ago, dannybuoy said: It's being released simply because there's been big demand for a pedal version of the Geddy preamp. Can't really call it a cut down VT Bass as that doesn't have a DI either! This will sound pretty different to the VT anyway, blending 2 signal paths in parallel, sounds to me like it will bring some of the benefits of the Dug pedal (clean lows, distorted top) but without the gaping hole in the midrange. Ok. Cut down was the wrong word, but to me it looks just like another Charecter pedal, all be it with a twist. Ive always thought Geddy’s tone came from his fingers, playing style and action on his basses. After all, what did he use to use before the preamp came out that gave him the same tone. Still could be an interesting addition to the ranger i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbowskill Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) i'd definitly be interested in how this sounds ( quite fond of TECH21).but any Artist's signiture/endorsed gear looks ever so much better without massive signitures and/or self portraites splashed over the product, imo subtlety is better for non fans who want to try the gear...i thought my markbassTTE 800 looked cool but ruined by having "randy jackson" splashed on it . im Not a big rush or Geddy fan (nice tones and playing though) , so having his mug over a pedal could probably put me off buying one (fickle i know) Edited January 20, 2019 by danbowskill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Fingers of course, but you could experiment with Jazz basses, Ricks, Hofners, Wal’s, Steinbergers and then Sansamp RPM, Avalon, Orange amps amongst all other things splitting signals etc. He has used, or get close with your own twist in a pedal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 53 minutes ago, danbowskill said: i'd definitly be interested in how this sounds ( quite fond of TECH21).but any Artist's signiture/endorsed gear looks ever so much better without massive signitures and/or self portraites splashed over the product, imo subtlety is better for non fans who want to try the gear...i thought my markbassTTE 800 looked cool but ruined by having "randy jackson" splashed on it . im Not a big rush or Geddy fan (nice tones and playing though) , so having his mug over a pedal could probably put me off buying one (fickle i know) Yeah, just entre nous* I think I'd get sick of Geddy being quizzical at me and have to silence his gaze with some ducting tape. *Thanks folks, I'm here all week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 No DI, I’ll stick with my Para Driver. It’s too much of a lottery on the shared/provided rigs scene to hope that the sound guys have a DI box -and I’m not buying one to carry around as a just in case. Shame, would have liked to try it but it’s not like I’m missing anything with my Para Driver, best pedal I’ve ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 But you can go straight from the Jack output into the desk either via another 1/4” end, or a mummy/daddy 3 pin XLR. Most desks accept balanced or unbalanced signals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Cuzzie said: But you can go straight from the Jack output into the desk either via another 1/4” end, or a mummy/daddy 3 pin XLR. Most desks accept balanced or unbalanced signals I’m not too good with technical stuff, how would I get the signal to my amp doing this as can only see one “out” on the pedal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Ok The Out jack can go to your amp in the normal way like any other pedal using a normal guitar lead. I presume if using an amp thisnis hooked up to a cab and this will blare our a glorious tone. if you wanted this time to also go out the PA system you can take a DI signal from the Your amp (it probably has one) to the desk and PA. This will give 2 sources of sound. It is possible to just go guitar into pedal - then a normal cable out the pedal into the PA just how you could with the paradriver. Only difference with the paradriver is you may go out the jack into the amp and out the DI out to the desk simultaneously instead of taking the DI out the amp. Essentially you could still use this Geddy pedal with no amp at all, straight into the PA with no extra DI box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Ah, in that case I’ll def have to pass on this but thanks for the info, really appreciated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 No worries, never say never! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Adding a DI box with an XLR and a parallel jack output would solve the lack output options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Lozz196 said: Ah, in that case I’ll def have to pass on this but thanks for the info, really appreciated. I wouldn't dismiss it just because it doesn't have a DI, if the sound is so glorious it makes you want to ditch the Paradriver, it'll be worth working around that. You can either just use the DI out from your amp or add a simple passive DI box (I found one for £6.99!). You might even find they complement each other, well and you want to use both and switch between them, in which case XLR out from the Paradriver would serve both pedals. The reason to give this one some attention is because a bit like the DP3-X, it's engineered to emulate the sound of running two separate amps in parallel. The problem with a lot of bass overdrive is you lose the low end punch due to the clipping and compression, and the low end negativley affects the character of the drive - it sounds gnarlier with the lows filtered out before the clipping stage. The Geddy pedal has two channels you can blend between; a 'deep' channel that is a cleaner Sansamp tone with the highs rolled off, and the drive channel which is a typical higher gain Sansamp circuit, with a 'tight' switch that filters out the lows going into it to make the distortion sound tighter and more defined. Mix those together and you have punchier lows and a more open roaring drive sound than you would get from a standard full range single channel Sansamp BDDI / PDDI / VTDI. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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