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https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-46383617

What exactly do they imagine they are protecting it from, I wonder?

"Other cultural traditions which made the list included a Spanish riding school in Vienna, a Mongolian camel-coaxing ritual and Czech puppetry."

- If I told them once, I told them a hundred times, put reggae music first, then the Czech puppet show.

 

 

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This is pointless nonsense. There are as many styles of Reggae as there are people playing it. Music is fixed when it is recorded. When it is played live it changes.

Musical forms, styles and genres don't stop progressing and evolving just because a bunch of politicians want to make a statement.

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I assume this is intended to inhibit cultural appropriation, but to be honest without cultural appropriation we wouldn't have much in the way of modern music, and reggae itself is derived from ska.  Reggae is pretty broad definition anyway - not much in common between Jimmy Cliff and Sly and Robbie in their dub phase.

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From themselves, possibly????

In all seriousness, its probably something to do with funding - if its recognised and protected, then smaller/amateur groups might be able to link to that and gain grant funding, or something like that?

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1 hour ago, SubsonicSimpleton said:

Does this mean that soldiers in blue berets are going to be dispatched to escort fat middle aged white blokes off stage for playing UB40 covers badly?

I love this idea! :)

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From what I could tell from visiting Jamaica a few years back 'classic' reggae doesn't seem to be that popular these days, at least not with the younger generation.

Of course you can't get away from Bob Marley and a smattering of other one hit wonder reggae tunes in the tourist hotels and bars, but when we were driven across the island to the airport the taxi driver was listening to the radio and it mainly seemed to be American style pop and hip hop.

There was some 'dancehall' stuff as well which has reggae roots but is really more a sort of dance music/rap combo but nothing that came close to what I would have described as 'classic' reggae.

 

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A lot of the more modern reggae (mid 80s onwards) is horrendously homophobic. I wonder how that's going to sit with it's protected by the UN status?

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The text of the convention is available on the UNESCO website - if answers some of the questions posed above.

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8 hours ago, SubsonicSimpleton said:

Does this mean that soldiers in blue berets are going to be dispatched to escort fat middle aged white blokes off stage for playing UB40 covers badly?

That could be the end of my covers band career then!! 😟😟

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8 hours ago, SubsonicSimpleton said:

Does this mean that soldiers in blue berets are going to be dispatched to escort fat middle aged white blokes off stage for playing UB40 covers badly?

Nah, they’ll probably run away to a safe distance and monitor it.

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Genuine excerpts below from the submission which secured Reggae's Safeguarded Intangible Heritage Status:

"The music originated within a cultural space that was home to marginalized under-represented groups, mainly in Western Kingston ... irrespective of social standing, gender or language ...

Its contribution to international discourse concerning issues of injustice, resistance, love, and humanity, underscore the dynamics of the element as being at once cerebral, socio-political, sensual and spiritual ...

The collective impact of Reggae music, in particular the Abyssinians' (song) "Declaration of Rights," served to uphold and affirm international legal instruments such as the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights at a time and in a space when it was not fashionable nor expedient".

Yes, yes, but how will Reggae be safeguarded?

"This objective is facilitated through the ... ACIJ/JMB ... which since 2016 has been designated the Focal Point for Intangible Cultural Heritage in Jamaica ... The State Party also created a Technical Committee in 2016, within the Ministry of Culture, Gender, Entertainment & Sport to oversee further safeguarding measures in keeping with the 2003 Convention ... which complement on-going dialogue with stakeholders and music industry members who formally support and enhance State Party initiatives".

H'mm. Some distance from roots rock riddim, one might say.
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Do you know what a reggae guy says when he has nothing more to smoke ?

 

 

What the f*ck is that sh*tty music !

 

 

 

Ok, I'll get my coat. 😁

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4 minutes ago, skankdelvar said:

This objective is facilitated through the ... ACIJ/JMB ... which since 2016 has been designated the Focal Point for Intangible Cultural Heritage in Jamaica ... The State Party also created a Technical Committee in 2016, within the Ministry of Culture, Gender, Entertainment & Sport to oversee further safeguarding measures in keeping with the 2003 Convention ... which complement on-going dialogue with stakeholders and music industry members who formally support and enhance State Party initiatives".

I am but a simple man, I didn't understand a word of that or how it would serve to protect the integrity of a musical genre.

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Wow, the heritage status makes real sense now! It is complete nonsense after all!

Should this be an indicator that punk music will get a similar status soon? Oh, maybe the new romantic 80's music too? Oh, forgot about rock n roll and blues and classical and ancient Greek stuff they've just solved the mystery of. Just about anyone who has picked up a washboard without a shirt to clean and played it badly should be eligible for protected status at some point then?  It's not really as if reggae music is in danger of dying out is it? Reasons for protected status are at best "barmy" :lol:

Call me cynical but it looks to me like somebody somewhere is trying and probably going to make a lot of money from this. In a few decades we'll have - Now That's What I call Protected Music 20 at the top of the album charts then! 😂 :facepalm:

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58 minutes ago, PJ-Bassist said:

I am but a simple man, I didn't understand a word of that or how it would serve to protect the integrity of a musical genre.

It's OK. I don't think anyone else does, apart from the person who wrote the document and the poor bastard who was paid to read it.

On the upside, it's an invaluable contribution to the sport of buzz-word Bingo.

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15 hours ago, skankdelvar said:

The music originated within a cultural space that was home to marginalized under-represented groups, mainly in Western Kingston

Assuming this is Kingston Jamaica, not Kingston, Surrey I'm surprised that the average Kingstonion was under represented or marginalised.

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Just now, Nicko said:

Assuming this is Kingston Jamaica, not Kingston, Surrey I'm surprised that the average Kingstonion was under represented or marginalised.

More false news. Everyone knows Reggae was started down the road from here, just off the Portsmouth Road, near the Bentall Centre.

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On ‎29‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 11:59, SubsonicSimpleton said:

Does this mean that soldiers in blue berets are going to be dispatched to escort fat middle aged white blokes off stage for playing UB40 covers badly?

Does this mean that soldiers in blue berets are going to be dispatched to escort fat middle aged white blokes off stage for being most of UB40?

 

Fixed.

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14 hours ago, skankdelvar said:

It's OK. I don't think anyone else does, apart from the person who wrote the document and the poor bastard who was paid to read it.

I doubt even they did

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