Ruck Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Is forking out £200 for a Broughton HPF + LPF the only option I have for this type of pedal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Do you actually need both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrixn1 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Depending on your exact scenario, perhaps a Zoom multi-effects unit like B1on, MS-60B, or B3n. They have a few options for HPF (e.g. `AcBs Pre`), and one of the cab simulations could play the part of a LPF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opticaleye Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 https://schalltechnik04.de/en/instructions/vong-filterung If you're handy with a soldering iron..... I've just bought a Broughton HPF and have to say that it's worth the money even including the import duty etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itu Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 VFE pedals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruck Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 On 01/11/2018 at 15:25, Happy Jack said: Do you actually need both? Yeah im a Bit Crusher abuser and sometimes need to tame the crazy fuzz settings. The HPF is the must have however. One of my pedals kicks out serious subs that need to be completely cut out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruck Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 On 01/11/2018 at 16:13, jrixn1 said: Depending on your exact scenario, perhaps a Zoom multi-effects unit like B1on, MS-60B, or B3n. They have a few options for HPF (e.g. `AcBs Pre`), and one of the cab simulations could play the part of a LPF. Which is the best for the cab sim and hpf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruck Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 8 hours ago, itu said: VFE pedals? Forgot about these, cant remember why I was turned off them. Ill have another look thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 21 hours ago, Opticaleye said: https://schalltechnik04.de/en/instructions/vong-filterung If you're handy with a soldering iron..... I've just bought a Broughton HPF and have to say that it's worth the money even including the import duty etc.. I have recently bought the kit for the Vong, though haven't got around to assembling it yet. It looks well thought out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 16 hours ago, Ruck said: The HPF is the must have however. One of my pedals kicks out serious subs that need to be completely cut out. A Micro Thumpinator would sort that out, they come up used in the For Sale forum from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruck Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, pete.young said: A Micro Thumpinator would sort that out, they come up used in the For Sale forum from time to time. I have one unfortunately the 30hz hpf doesnt quite cut it. Even with the filter on my GK 1001rb engaged my Barefaced Big Twin 2 is still kicking out serious flappy lows Edited November 3, 2018 by Ruck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 On 02/11/2018 at 19:31, Ruck said: Yeah im a Bit Crusher abuser and sometimes need to tame the crazy fuzz settings. The HPF is the must have however. One of my pedals kicks out serious subs that need to be completely cut out. 8 hours ago, Ruck said: I have one unfortunately the 30hz hpf doesnt quite cut it. Even with the filter on my GK 1001rb engaged my Barefaced Big Twin 2 is still kicking out serious flappy lows Sounds intriguing. Which pedal are you using that is kicking out subs to out do a Thumpinator? A DOD Meatbox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) - Edited March 1, 2022 by Jus Lukin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jus Lukin said: I believe the Zoom B3n, with the most recent update, has dedicated low and high EQs which can be set as shelves or high/low pass filters. Yes indeed it does and they're pretty decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 On 02/11/2018 at 20:07, Beer of the Bass said: I have recently bought the kit for the Vong, though haven't got around to assembling it yet. It looks well thought out though. Oh, I'd be interested to see how you like it when you build it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruck Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Al Krow said: Sounds intriguing. Which pedal are you using that is kicking out subs to out do a Thumpinator? A DOD Meatbox? Iron Ether FMeron, although I reckon the Thumpinator is still doing its job. Best guess is I need something to cut around 40-80hz if I am to utilise the FMeron without long term damage to speakers and really annoying sound engineers. Edited November 4, 2018 by Ruck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Ruck said: Iron Ether FMeron Oh that's really interesting. That was a pedal I had thought about getting a while back, but then got distracted and ended up with a Markbass SS and then subsequently "upgraded" to a Panda FI. I wasn't aware that it could churn out speaker crushing lows! And unlike the Meatbox, it will do a ton of stuff besides. Hmmm...maybe worth my re-visiting getting one of these. (Particularly as I've very recently got a Thumpinator too ) How are you using yours? Any clips of you using it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruck Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Oh that's really interesting. That was a pedal I had thought about getting a while back, but then got distracted and ended up with a Markbass SS and then subsequently "upgraded" to a Panda FI. I wasn't aware that it could churn out speaker crushing lows! And unlike the Meatbox, it will do a ton of stuff besides. Hmmm...maybe worth my re-visiting getting one of these. (Particularly as I've very recently got a Thumpinator too ) How are you using yours? Any clips of you using it? Most of the demos online are using the FMeron with high FM settings and im not so much a fan of that sound. So I mostly use it with the FM control set all the way down or just before that. The other thing you will find if you get your hands on one is the triggering. Its a little fussy, but when you've figured it out its spot on and very quick. Unfortunately you have to feed it a signal devoid of highs and high mids if you want it to trigger reliably on a low E on a 4-string for example. However playing a Low E or anything lower on a 5-string's B string and it appears to be much less fussy. Im using a P-Bass 4-string with thomastik infeld jazz flats with the tone rolled all the way back. The band Im in probably wont be comfortable sharing out early material I will try sort out some recordings into my soundcard soon! Edited November 4, 2018 by Ruck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 BTW I think the B3n is the only one of the Zooms that let you apply the cab sim by itself, on the older ones it's just an option you can dial in on each amp model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) Just been looking at the Mooer Radar cab sim pedal and it has built in and, according to the manual, adjustable HP and LP filters, as well as EQ, power amp and cab sims. No details as to what the available settings are for the filters or what slope the filters have though... Very interesting little pedal nonetheless! Edit:from a user on that other site, HPF is adjustable from 15Hz in 5Hz steps. 5 band eq has sweepable mid points. Edited November 5, 2018 by Bigwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke_zero Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 In a mix taming the bottom end is essential - I'm about to build the Vong with this in mind - my issue is primarily with a meatball clone pedal generating a lot of low as the evelope closes. I'd have thought the Vong with it's variable -12dB/Oct HP filter might be a bit much in terms of 'taming' probably more in the order of removing! Low shelf EQ might be nicer - like the baxandall in an ampeg style eq? I built the vong guy's pumpernickle compressor and I really like that, so I'm looking forward to hearing the vong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruck Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Bigwan said: Just been looking at the Mooer Radar cab sim pedal and it has built in and, according to the manual, adjustable HP and LP filters, as well as EQ, power amp and cab sims. No details as to what the available settings are for the filters or what slope the filters have though... Very interesting little pedal nonetheless! Edit:from a user on that other site, HPF is adjustable from 15Hz in 5Hz steps. 5 band eq has sweepable mid points. Nice! and so tiny, thanks! B3n looked good but the size was going to be a slight issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microbass Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 The Hotone Skyline Gate starts at 40Hz... I'm trying to decide between this and the Vong DIY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 23 hours ago, bloke_zero said: In a mix taming the bottom end is essential - I'm about to build the Vong with this in mind - my issue is primarily with a meatball clone pedal generating a lot of low as the evelope closes. I'd have thought the Vong with it's variable -12dB/Oct HP filter might be a bit much in terms of 'taming' probably more in the order of removing! Low shelf EQ might be nicer - like the baxandall in an ampeg style eq? I built the vong guy's pumpernickle compressor and I really like that, so I'm looking forward to hearing the vong! I built the Vong - I think you're going to like it They really are outstanding kits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke_zero Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 19 minutes ago, ahpook said: I built the Vong - I think you're going to like it They really are outstanding kits. Cool! I'm half way through - just drilled the case. I agree, great kits, but also well thought out pedals - the pumpernickle was about the only pedal I could find that ticked all my boxes in any form - clean sounding comp with enough controls to be meaningful (not just more or less squash!), AND blend. Add the blinking lights and I'm in heaven! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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