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A question for you BC'ers with either Bugera model to help those of us dithering and delaying, like Adonis proteges on steroids, get off the fence about getting one of these.

Have any of you felt that this has not hit the mark in terms of what you are after from an amp? Please put aside that they are ridiculously good value, which no one can seriously doubt, the question is much more about if you could choose between this and something costing 2 to 3 times more (e.g. a Markbass head or a Genzler M800) and you weren't being primarily driven by the price, would you still stick with your Bugera?

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1 hour ago, Al Krow said:

Out of interest which model Bugera have you got?

1001T - the tube model. Just to confirm - the distortion was from the pickup height. The JV '57 s have a very hot and spiky output, particularly on the raised A. 

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6 hours ago, Al Krow said:

A question for you BC'ers with either Bugera model to help those of us dithering and delaying, like Adonis proteges on steroids, get off the fence about getting one of these.

Have any of you felt that this has not hit the mark in terms of what you are after from an amp? Please put aside that they are ridiculously good value, which no one can seriously doubt, the question is much more about if you could choose between this and something costing 2 to 3 times more (e.g. a Markbass head or a Genzler M800) and you weren't being primarily driven by the price, would you still stick with your Bugera?

I don't have a lot of experience with different amps, but I can honestly say this is the best sounding, and probably most powerful amp I've ever owned. It does everything I need it to do and then some. I can't see the point of ever getting another amp. If it broke i'd buy another. The only GAS I get with regards to amps is maybe buying the valve version of this to go alongside the mosfet. 

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On 02/03/2020 at 17:08, Al Krow said:

A question for you BC'ers with either Bugera model to help those of us dithering and delaying, like Adonis proteges on steroids, get off the fence about getting one of these.

Have any of you felt that this has not hit the mark in terms of what you are after from an amp? Please put aside that they are ridiculously good value, which no one can seriously doubt, the question is much more about if you could choose between this and something costing 2 to 3 times more (e.g. a Markbass head or a Genzler M800) and you weren't being primarily driven by the price, would you still stick with your Bugera?

I have the tube version and have no desire to get another amp at the moment. I've had a few amps over the years but the most comparable being an OBT and a Genz Shuttle both of which would be double the price I paid for the Bugera even 2nd hand and to my ears is more flexible than the orange (which l loved) and better sounding than the genz. 

It's difficult to take price out of the equation with these but I have no amp GAS at the moment if that answers your question. 2nd gig with it will be next week.

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I've used mine a few times with Stray. I'm currently gigging an old Trace head, but mainly cos it's cool and I have roadies. I'd prefer to use my Veyron T ove my GK MB500 which is still a blooming good amp.

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The 1001M is back down to £185 on Amazon (no extra delivery for Prime members), if anyone is currently after one.

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8 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

The 1001M is back down to £185 on Amazon (no extra delivery for Prime members), if anyone is currently after one.

1 to 3 month dispatch time. 😣

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I've been gigging an old Trace AH300 for the last two weeks of our tour so I've really got used to the sound and feel. I've not been using the preshapes and have been using an amp simulator into the front end (VT or Orange Juice). 

I'm going to take the Veyron T out for tomorrow's show in Norwich so should be able to give an informed report back on how it compares in the heft dept. 

I'll be running it through a Nemesis 4 x 10.

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1 hour ago, King Tut said:

I've been gigging an old Trace AH300 for the last two weeks of our tour so I've really got used to the sound and feel. I've not been using the preshapes and have been using an amp simulator into the front end (VT or Orange Juice). 

I'm going to take the Veyron T out for tomorrow's show in Norwich so should be able to give an informed report back on how it compares in the heft dept. 

I'll be running it through a Nemesis 4 x 10.

It won't compare. It's the green lights that give Trace rigs heft. 

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11 minutes ago, Newfoundfreedom said:

It won't compare. It's the green lights that give Trace rigs heft. 

Pedant alert . . . . . it's a UV light, not a green light on mine 😉

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12 hours ago, Newfoundfreedom said:

1 to 3 month dispatch time. 😣

I bought a light fitting that had a similar time scale on it, arrived in 3 weeks!

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On 08/03/2020 at 23:58, Al Krow said:

The 1001M is back down to £185 on Amazon (no extra delivery for Prime members), if anyone is currently after one.

£189 now, this is an absolute bargain, a steal, and well worth the wait. 

The T (which I'd like to try) is £254!! 

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So i've used my Bugera for the last three nights having done 7 on the bounce with my Trace - all other things being equal.

Last night can't count as we had a bit of a balls up. The engineer accidently knocked my DI switch from post to pre when we changed bands which resulted in massive bass going to front of house overwhelming the mix which we had to work through. 

However in Norwich, and tonight, at The Garage, I had a glorious sound, more than enough volume and a really nice focussed low mid. The EQ isn't as versatile as the Trace but the sound is nice and musical, and the convenience factor is great. So my Bugera is the way forward for the time being!

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Glad it worked out for you @King Tut. I have no complaints about mine, just an observation that the sound is very clean, clinical almost. It's all down to personal taste of course but I like a little bit of roughness just around the edges. A low gain distortion pedal sorts this admirably.

I also like to use it as a simple power  amp. The Trace sim on the B1-Four through this is righteous! 

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5 hours ago, stewblack said:

Glad it worked out for you @King Tut. I have no complaints about mine, just an observation that the sound is very clean, clinical almost. It's all down to personal taste of course but I like a little bit of roughness just around the edges. A low gain distortion pedal sorts this admirably.

I also like to use it as a simple power  amp. The Trace sim on the B1-Four through this is righteous! 

I've changed my board a bit and now using a Joyo Orange Juice for a mild overdrive. If you clip the pre on the Veyron it tends to rough it up a bit, particularly if you boost the mids on the middle of the three settings. Ironically I'm trying it with 2k boosted tonight for a bit more edge! EDIT - just realised you've got the MOSFET version.

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20 hours ago, stewblack said:

£189 now, this is an absolute bargain, a steal, and well worth the wait. 

The T (which I'd like to try) is £254!! 

Stewblac. Are you in Norton? If you ever get up to Bristol you are welcome to give my T a try. Equally if you fancy a night out in Weston SM I'll be using mine at the back bar tomorrow night! 

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2 hours ago, sbrag said:

Stewblac. Are you in Norton? If you ever get up to Bristol you are welcome to give my T a try. Equally if you fancy a night out in Weston SM I'll be using mine at the back bar tomorrow night! 

That's very decent of you! I'm working in Scallys tomorrow evening! So we're both in WSM 

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2 hours ago, King Tut said:

bit more edge! EDIT - just realised you've got the MOSFET version.

Yes sorry, I am muddying the waters a little aren't I, 🤦🏼‍♂️

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