Woodinblack Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Oh I am sure it will be a great fun thing. Those effects I was saying about - I have no use for them for the current music I am playing, and to be honest, after playing with the VST for a while, I switched to guitar, where obviously there is a lot more scope for entertainment. Having said all that, looking on ebay the Helix FXs are going for not much, and seeing as I am still going to have to go through an amp (not got the space / don't want to take on getting a new PA with bass bins), it is starting to look quite tempting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Anybody else considerd the hxfx and a stomp. That would be one versatile setup! As the fx has all the controll capablity, and the stomp has amps. Effects can be shared between the 2 units. Might be just a brain fart, but seems to make sense to me... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, GisserD said: Anybody else considerd the hxfx and a stomp. That really would be bigger and more expensive than a LT, or even a SH Helix full, so no, that wouldn't make sense to me! The only advantage I could see in that is you would get the scribble strips, but my eyesight isn't something that would give much of an advantage to! Edited November 18, 2018 by Woodinblack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, GisserD said: Anybody else considerd the hxfx and a stomp. That would be one versatile setup! As the fx has all the controll capablity, and the stomp has amps. Effects can be shared between the 2 units. Might be just a brain fart, but seems to make sense to me... It's TOTALLY RIDICULOUS that Line6 are not making amp and cab sims available for the HX (ffs they're available on Zoom multi fxs costing a fraction of the price) and that you should even have to think about a STOMP to complement your HX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronJ Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I actually think a Stomp + HXFX would be a great setup. Put the HXFX in the loop of the Stomp and connect them via midi so patch changes are mirrored between the two. A little more expensive than an LT (not by much) but definitely still more compact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Now I have been looking more at the HX effects and what with my B3 being a bit poorly, it is starting to get a bit tempting. Damn you basschat with your constant GAS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 6 hours ago, Woodinblack said: Now I have been looking more at the HX effects and what with my B3 being a bit poorly, it is starting to get a bit tempting. Damn you basschat with your constant GAS! Well it sounds from your previous comment, the HX could be the "value" option now. What have you seen them go for on eBay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Al Krow said: Well it sounds from your previous comment, the HX could be the "value" option now. What have you seen them go for on eBay? Seems the prices are roughly: Helix: £800 Helix Lt: £550-600 Helix HX: £300 So some below those occasionally. The Helix Lt at < 600 also seems tempting! Edited November 19, 2018 by Woodinblack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Thanks for sharing that. Well the used HX prices are definitely not collapsing. If they are going for 75% of new prices for a 1 year old pedal, that's pretty much "standard". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Thanks for sharing that. Well the used HX prices are definitely not collapsing. If they are going for 75% of new prices for a 1 year old pedal, that's pretty much "standard". The guy who is selling most of them on ebay seems to be selling them new boxed, but with a long wait, so I am guessing he is grey importing them from somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Ah the old "grey" import alternative. I'd be expecting a 25% discount on that stuff given lack of warranty or easy ability to return etc. Not really a "fair" price comparison to normal UK retailers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) No, but equivalent to second hand. Getting tempted though (not for the grey import, for an actual second hand) Edited November 19, 2018 by Woodinblack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 17 hours ago, Al Krow said: Yup @Woodinblack and @Jack, this box of tricks is definitely not for you and you should both steer very well clear. In the meantime, me and @KingPrawn can quietly get on with having some fun with it in our own simple ways 😉 I give it a week. Being serious for a second, I stand by the fact that if I didn't have a helix and I was buying one, it'd be the Stomp. I'm sure you'll love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jack said: Being serious for a second, I stand by the fact that if I didn't have a helix and I was buying one, it'd be the Stomp. I'm sure you'll love it. As a full fat helix owner I'm in two minds on this one. I'm seriously considering a Stomp (Mrs B has her eyes on it as xmas pressie for me) but I doubt I'd pick it exclusively over the full fat. I use my helix at home, for recording, mic input, multiple outs, and all sorts of other stuff. It's on the floor under my desk and gets used every day. A Stomp wouldn't cut it. That said, I'd use it live all the time.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPrawn Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I've just spent the morning getting to know my shiny new stomp. I have never used any Helix prior to today and am really happy with it. the ease of use is brilliant! After 20mins I was editing and creating new blocks. Really happy with the responsiveness of the editing dynamics. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I'm actually thinking about letting my LT go. Partly financial reasons but also HX could fulfil my... oh here we go.. @Al Krow... my mini pedal board needs!! .. in one small box! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Bridgehouse said: As a full fat helix owner I'm in two minds on this one. I'm seriously considering a Stomp (Mrs B has her eyes on it as xmas pressie for me) but I doubt I'd pick it exclusively over the full fat. I use my helix at home, for recording, mic input, multiple outs, and all sorts of other stuff. It's on the floor under my desk and gets used every day. A Stomp wouldn't cut it. That said, I'd use it live all the time.... Live is why I fancy the Stomp too. I love that everything that I need fits in a 15kg rack, I'm so spoiled compared to the 45kg combo I started off gigging with and that should be enough for me. But 15kg is still heavy and the idea of a <1kg pedal is so tempting. But then it'd have to go on a board with a wireless and whilst that would certainly be lighter than the rack it probably wont be any smaller and so the merry go round continues! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jack said: Live is why I fancy the Stomp too. I love that everything that I need fits in a 15kg rack, I'm so spoiled compared to the 45kg combo I started off gigging with and that should be enough for me. But 15kg is still heavy and the idea of a <1kg pedal is so tempting. But then it'd have to go on a board with a wireless and whilst that would certainly be lighter than the rack it probably wont be any smaller and so the merry go round continues! You'd be surprised.. I have my Preamp/DI on a Pedaltrain nano - with a Korg tuner and a wireless receiver. It's all powered by a Cioks DC5. (I know that won't work for Stomp, but their new one will..) All up, it fits in a Mono Tic, so I can attach it to my Mono bag for a single carry in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Maybe I will change my mind eventually, but if I give it 3 months, @Al Krow will be selling his and moving onto the next thing and I can grab that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 37 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: Maybe I will change my mind eventually, but if I give it 3 months, @Al Krow will be selling his and moving onto the next thing and I can grab that I bought my Zoom B3n 18 months ago, when they first came out (a bit like this Stomp thing - "you know I love you") and my first Zoom MS-60B in 2013. I've still got one of each. Me and multifx go back a while. This is no mere compressor pedal that no one can hear what difference it's making...😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) You still haven't fessed up to how many basses you have. I maybe need to check the "how many basses you have" thread 😂 Edited November 19, 2018 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, Al Krow said: You still haven't fessed up to how many basses you have. I maybe need to check the "how many basses you have" thread 😂 See, that wasn’t a denial of the inevitable, was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallBTB Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) I'm really looking forward to reading people's thoughts on this once people start gigging it. I was using my hxfx for my main gig (straight to desk/pa set up) but have ended up back with the B3 as I only use two sounds for that band anyway, and I found just using an amp sim on the zoom a lot easier to set up, compared the the eq / drive block + cab IR set up on the hx. And the lack of master volume! Edited November 19, 2018 by MarshallBTB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronJ Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I may or may not have bought the last Stomp that Gear 4 Music had in stock today 😬 currently on its way from their German warehouse! There were 5 in stock when I first checked this morning - I went in the shower and by the time I’d come out there was only 1 left so I snapped it up. Should hopefully arrive before the end of the week. I also just bought an Apple Camera Connection Kit (a glorified lightning to USB adaptor) so I can use Stomp as an interface direct into my iPad/iPhone. Fun times ahead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) Congrats on the purchase Cam. Mine is showing on the Gear4Music website as being due for delivery tomorrow Spoke too soon, just got a delivery date change email from Gear4Music to 21 December. At least I'll be in then @Woodinblack so you've coyly avoided fessing up to the number of your basses in the confessional thread... ....although you did in passing mention you had TEN guitars that you never play!!! Sounds to me like someone who will get a Stomp if he really wants one and certainly won't need to wait for mine to be coming up second hand Edited November 19, 2018 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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