Cuzzie Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 @dannybuoy i think we get fooled that because it looks like an MM pick up, it has to be in the same place as a Stingray bass, and it should sound like a stingray if solo’d. Absolutely this is not the point of that bass configuration, and it is not the way it has been wired for sound either. Both the position and the relative ‘weakness’ of sound as some people call it of the MM is entirely intentional as it is there to blend with the J or P pick up. Even within the sig models that are VM/TM the M is positioned differently to a standard version ever so slightly. Now the sound may or may not be to someone’s liking anyway, but I wouldn’t say that an MM pick ups ‘natural’ place is in the Ray position, as the Basic shows that it works on its own out of Ray territory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronJ Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I don’t actually have much personal experience of Rays first hand so as far as the tone of the Solo’d MM pickup I don’t have a particular frame of reference. What I will say though is that it isn’t only useful as a blending option with the P - it’s actually an incredibly useful sound in its own right. I’ve found myself playing along to tracks with a dense mix of instruments and soloing the MM has given me the perfect starting tone that cuts through the mix better than any other pup setting. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 The pickup is indeed a bit further north than a Ray, plus I've got flats on it, which results in a mellower sound. It was the Vulfpeck 'It Gets Funkier' vid that drove me to find a bass with that sound, and that's what exactly I got! David Caraccio from the video above has a custom gold Basic also with the MM pup in what looks like the actual Stingray position plus an added J pickup really close to the bridge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronJ Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 On a side note, anyone tried flats on their VM (or PM?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deedee Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 My PM4 at Sunday afternoon’s gig 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opticaleye Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Here's mine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronJ Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Those Umbos are sexy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FacStudio Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Here’s my 4 HCA Sandy’s Umbo, TSBS, 48, TM2 Edited November 13, 2018 by FacStudio 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Deedee said: My PM4 at Sunday afternoon’s gig 😎 Lovley colour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 @Opticaleye you know I have an Umbo fetish and this is doing it no good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 All hail @FacStudio the anointed king of Sandberg’s! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 I put some sadowsky knobs on my PM5 last week. I can now tell what the settings are without touching them! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ead Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Yeah i did the same on mine. The Sandberg black control knobs are not the greatest for instant visibility in a gig setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I am less subtle pretty much all wide open! i do like the notch on the turn on my blend though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestPoetry Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I tell you this Configurator tool is dangeroous! Would love to own a Sandberg, this would be about as close to a dream fretless I could get (or maybe with a dark brown coffee table body): 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, ead said: Yeah i did the same on mine. The Sandberg black control knobs are not the greatest for instant visibility in a gig setting. I don't look at knobs, I just feel them. Wait, that sounded wrong. Most bass knobs have no markers on them, so I just give them a quick twiddle to see how far they are from the end of travel or the center detent if there is one. Wouldn't want to be picking up my bass and holding it up to my face squinting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronJ Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 That's the point - if the knobs have clear markers on then you don't have to hold your bass up, or squint. To be fair I tend to use my ears/hands to feel for knob settings too but a visual aid can't hurt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opticaleye Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Cuzzie said: @Opticaleye you know I have an Umbo fetish and this is doing it no good! I think that it's me that has the Umbo fetish! All I need now is a nice California II Umbo and my collection would be complete. They really conjure up all of the classic passive tones from P to J and even semi acoustic . I use the Motown setting a lot but the Jaco setting not so much (although it's on another level). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 @Opticaleye you are right, I think mine is a wannabe, which makes you sort of a hero for me. That and a Forty Eight would be peachy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opticaleye Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, Cuzzie said: @Opticaleye you are right, I think mine is a wannabe, which makes you sort of a hero for me. That and a Forty Eight would be peachy I don't think that accidentally owning something should qualify me for "sort of hero" status. @FacStudio deserves the hat tip I think. I tried an Umbo in PMT when they first came out and thought it sounded nasal and horrible. I traded another Sandberg (a TM4) for the HCA white Umbo and realised that the Sandberg strings don't go too well with the Alnico II pickups and, through trial and error, have found strings that bring the best out of them. I've disliked every new one I've tried in shops (even when taking delivery of my Marley Blue order) for this reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Love the Seafoam green ones.... However the thing that brought me here was the thread title - it's been driving me (and my OCD/Pedantry) crazy for days..."Sandberg appreciation scociety" Please, please, please amend the spelling... Edited May 17, 2018 by TheGreek 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I ddin't eevn sopt the tpyo, it's an aiamnzg fcat taht as lnog as the frist and lsat ltretes are crorcet, we can raed pterty mcuh aynhtnig! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 41 minutes ago, TheGreek said: Love the Seafoam green ones.... However the thing that brought me here was the thread title - it's been driving me (and my OCD/Pedantry) crazy for days..."Sandberg appreciation scociety" Please, please, please amend the spelling... Hahah, no problem. The funny thing is i actually spell checked "appreciation" prior to posting! oh, and its "Surf" green. not seafoam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, GisserD said: oh, and its "Surf" green. not seafoam Now I know that it'll "do my head in..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronJ Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Ah. I’m guessing seafoam has a bit more blue in the hue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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