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Gene Simmons: “Studio bassists who play with their fingers live have no idea that we can’t hear what they’re playing”


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1 hour ago, musicbassman said:

That 'lesson' with Carol Kaye.....................is he for real ???

Jawdroppingly appalling and clumsy technique - and he allows someone to put this up on Youtube ???

Carol Kaye is so polite.......like to imagine what she was really thinking............................

 

And Carol taught James Jamerson too! :laugh1:

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I prefer playing with fingers, but much prefer the sound out front I get with a pick. After decades of finger playing, I am finally a committed pick player. Many people agree, and say I should have been committed years ago!

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Aww I'm not a Kiss fan but I'm going to go with the pro-Gene camp. Yes he's an arch capitalist but... he brought us Van Halen, Rush and was politely respectful when Chris Squire died. Plus he seems happy to engage fans in all his money-making ventures. Not wild about his claims to female conquests... 2,000+ That's just creepy and probably requiring medical attention. And it's also rubbish. Last of a dying R&R dream breed.

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(After dinner) I've just read the thread title properly and reckon he's spot-on - fingers in the studio but pick on stage. Studio technique does not translate well to the stage.

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Just now, FinnDave said:

(After dinner) I've just read the thread title properly and reckon he's spot-on - fingers in the studio but pick on stage. 

I wouldn't take him that literally. In the past he's said the same about high end basses in a live situation too. (He used to play Pedullas at one point.) What he's saying is that in a large concert situation, the details get lost...

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1 minute ago, visog said:

I wouldn't take him that literally. In the past he's said the same about high end basses in a live situation too. (He used to play Pedullas at one point.) What he's saying is that in a large concert situation, the details get lost...

Well, he's got a point...and thinking about it, I get a good sound in a studio playing finger style, but live, it sounds better with a pick, live benefits from the attack and definition that a pick gives you.

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13 minutes ago, Little Dragon said:

Read all the thread and all I can think is... It's called a plectrum in this country.

I think you'll find that a great many people in this country refer to them as picks. I also think there are more useful ideas in this thread than a pedantic insistence on the use of an archaic term (and yes, i am usually this bloody minded when I've been drinking!).

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Thats one hilariously ironic comment; given that the bass seems to be so very low in the mix on the few Kiss records I've heard. Crazy Nights is a prime example.

The lack of bass just left me wondering what all the fuss was about. O.o

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11 hours ago, steantval said:

He really promotes anti drugs and drink, thats something that can’t be too bad.

If that's what clean living does to you I'm off to find my next vat of toxins.

 

 

xD

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I didn't find it that controversial to be honest. I understand what he's saying about needing different techniques for different situations and agree 100% with his sentiments regarding the fact that live your tone is either made or lost by the person on the mixing desk.

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once again guys, he's not being entirely serious, but probably making the quite valid point that with a pick you usually get a crisper sound (more attack) although I've heard finger players sound like they're using a pick and pick players sound like they're using fingers, Macca springs to mind on that one 

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