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1 hour ago, Bill Fitzmaurice said:

I think there’d be an argument in my house if these appeared in the living room!

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I remember seeing these in a HiFi shop in SW London many years ago. Glad to see there are still selling, even if just made from Birch plywood!

 

https://www.audioemotion.co.uk/tannoy-westminster-royal-gr-loudspeakers-459-p.asp

 

Other speakers, including much more expensive ones are available.

 

Such as these for example.

http://www.tonepublications.com/review/sonus-faber-aida-loudspeaker/

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Not sure I understand why the seller is talking about using amps such as Lab Gruppen, MC2, etc. The only way to drive a pair of big Tannoy duals is with valves (that should stir up a few replies). They're very efficient, so a big trannie amp would be barely ticking over and wouldn't give of its best. Something like this would be the route to audio nirvana, I humbly suggest - http://www.audio-markt.de/_markt/item.php?id=8323733177.

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1 hour ago, Tubster said:

Well, these come in at just under a ton in weight and 200,000 dollars. Wonder what a recommended amp setup would add?!

https://www.stereophile.com/content/wilson-audio-specialties-alexandria-xlf-loudspeaker

Wow! 

1 hour ago, Bill Fitzmaurice said:

Yes, the Donald Trump signature model, expressly designed for those with far more money than brains.

It does seem mental. Like do the people who can afford these actually have the time to geek out on audiophile sound? 

 

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1 hour ago, Tubster said:

Well, these come in at just under a ton in weight and 200,000 dollars. Wonder what a recommended amp setup would add?!

If I was rich I would have those connected to an old amstrad amplifier and one of those upright record players that never worked well :D

 

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50 minutes ago, LukeFRC said:

Like do the people who can afford these actually have the time to geek out on audiophile sound? 

 

Those Wilsons don't sound any better than many speakers at 5% of that price, if not less. They're not marketed to people who know what good sound is, they're marketed to people who equate quality with price and don't know that the one doesn't necessarily give you the other.

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2 hours ago, Tubster said:

Well, these come in at just under a ton in weight and 200,000 dollars. Wonder what a recommended amp setup would add?!

https://www.stereophile.com/content/wilson-audio-specialties-alexandria-xlf-loudspeaker

The best line in that review is "add $10,000 for the speaker cables ..."

O.o

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Irony is that, as I discovered this afternoon when playing my daughters' requests through my tube amp and (semi) decent speakers, much of the music being produced currently DOES sound better through a cheap system. My daughters loved listening to Taylor Swift really loud through Daddy's speakers either way. 

There is science to this, but it's not acoustics, you could say it's psychoacoustics but it's more than that really. Psychology and neuroscience research has made it pretty clear that expectation and sensation interact to produce perception. In this context, most problematic is the fact that the greater the expectation the greater the effect (true of pre-CBS versus MIJ Fenders etc etc). 

But there's only one reality that matters, and that's the one your neurons are dealing with as you listen. And given that expectation is a function of so many things - income, education, taste, experience, experience, expertise (and perceived expertise) - there's no way of standardising the relative quality of anything really. I'm glad I've got cheap tastes and limited expertise :)

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Whoever buys those speakers will no doubt be purchasing the Pivetta Opera Only  amp to run those bargain drivers

Only 1.5 million Euros. Makes those speakers look like a pair of shop closure Tandys

The 2.5m-tall, 1500kg amplifier, built at a cost of some €1.5m (£1.275m), is capable of delivering 160kW.
 
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1 hour ago, LukeFRC said:

I don't even know what this one is but boy I bet it sounds $11000 https://www.higherfi.com/phono/koetsu-coralstone

really do a group of people actually pay this kind of mental money for a hi Fi system? What exactly are they listening to on it? Some album mastered to sound good on Spotify via iPhone earbuds? 

You have to remember that not everyone plays modern pop albums "mastered to sound good on Spotify via iPhone earbuds". If you have some of the classic EMI classical records, for example, they sound a bit special when played via the right kit. The fact is that  there is a difference to be gained with esoteric hi-fi, but the law of diminishing returns applies firmly. If you are fortunate enough to be able to spend the necessary, though, the results can be spectacular.

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