Dad3353 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, Bluewine said: For me, the last 7 years have been the first time in many years of gigging to have a front parson that's a natural. ... Holy smoke..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy 5 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I tried to engage the crowd at a gig once. (Many times but this particular time...) Had a super long lead, and the crowd was a bit far away so I wandered off stage to encourage them to move closer. They literally edged back the closer I got! So...yeah, sometimes I end up looking like a silly billy trying to have presence. Of course, trying so hard can make it obvious you lack something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewine Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) I do think, and I'm not sure why, you guys from the UK are more natural showman then we are here in the States. Blue Edited March 14, 2018 by Bluewine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewine Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 I remember going to see headliner Doyle Bramhall III at Shank Hall (small club/ bar). Great guitarist and song writer ,however he had absolutely no stage prencence or real connection with the crowd. It was all about his guitar playing. And as I said earlier these days that only gets you so far. His opening act was a young husband and wife team and they had their stage appeal stuff together. Very entertaining. Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bluewine said: I do think, and I'm not sure why, you guys from the UK are more natural showman then we are, here in the States... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 It's often the case that a band will have a combination of those who stare at their fingers/shoes but who are great players and those who are at home engaging with an audience. That seems to be a good balance. I don't think you need any more than 2 who front up/chat or it can get a bit wearing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Bluewine said: I do think, and I'm not sure why, you guys from the UK are more natural showman then we are here in the States. Blue Dunno about that - to the best of my knowledge Steven Tyler wasn't born and raised in Bogner Regis...! As far as I'm concerned, I'm really just a song and dance man! You have to be able to be a capable enough musician to play what you need to, but you should also develop some stagecraft along the way. It doesn’t have to be all pyros and gold lame suits, but you definitely need to learn how to entertain your audience. There is nothing worse than seeing a band that can’t or won’t engage with the people watching them! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonaRik Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) No matter how talented the individuals, if they're a bunch of shoe-gazers my attention span is about 1 drink and I'm done. I've always tried to entertain - my theory is that I'm not likely to bump into anyone in the street so be the entertainer, play a pub like it's Wembley, be a bit OTT, take the wireless mic into the room and make an impromptu 'B' stage at the far end (IEM's help!), run around, stand on seats/tables, they'll remember you. Of course, if you have at least half-way chops to back it up then it's even better! Edited March 14, 2018 by DaytonaRik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_c Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Dad3353 said: ... and you're 'available' any week-end or weekday, for the next few years. Am I wrong..? Only if you can afford my fee. I charge 1 packet of spicy Nik Naks and a bottle of antiseptic to wash it down with. If that's too expensive, any medical or cleaning product containing alcohol will suffice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I always think vintage trouble are trying just a bit too hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horrorhiker Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 19 minutes ago, gjones said: I always think vintage trouble are trying just a bit too hard. Not half. This is what Mumford and Sons would be like if they watched Sister Act all the time instead of The Waltons. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Now. . . . in my head this is exactly what I'm doing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewine Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Dan Dare said: It's often the case that a band will have a combination of those who stare at their fingers/shoes but who are great players and those who are at home engaging with an audience. That seems to be a good balance. I don't think you need any more than 2 who front up/chat or it can get a bit wearing. Agreed, and you really have to be comfortable doing it. The audience knows if your sincere or faking it. Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewine Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 hours ago, DaytonaRik said: No matter how talented the individuals, if they're a bunch of shoe-gazers my attention span is about 1 drink and I'm done. I've always tried to entertain - my theory is that I'm not likely to bump into anyone in the street so be the entertainer, play a pub like it's Wembley, be a bit OTT, take the wireless mic into the room and make an impromptu 'B' stage at the far end (IEM's help!), run around, stand on seats/tables, they'll remember you. Of course, if you have at least half-way chops to back it up then it's even better! That can be entertaining, but, keep in mind walking out into a crowd , standing on tables is a skill. You really have to be good at it and know what your doing. If you don't the audience will sense it and cringe. Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewine Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 hours ago, peteb said: Dunno about that - to the best of my knowledge Steven Tyler wasn't born and raised in Bogner Regis...! As far as I'm concerned, I'm really just a song and dance man! You have to be able to be a capable enough musician to play what you need to, but you should also develop some stagecraft along the way. It doesn’t have to be all pyros and gold lame suits, but you definitely need to learn how to entertain your audience. There is nothing worse than seeing a band that can’t or won’t engage with the people watching them! Hi Pete, Playing Ariba's on 124th & Hampton for St. Patty's Day this Saturday night. Ariba's is sort of like our home. Great crowd and great sounding room. Low ceiling with carpeted floors. I agree, yeah Steven is Yank and probably close to the top on my short list. But you guys have Freddie & Mick, those guys are the definitive frontmen. Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewine Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Horrorhiker said: Not half. This is what Mumford and Sons would be like if they watched Sister Act all the time instead of The Waltons. I like them, keep in mind this performance I believe is designed specifically for TV and David's audience.David's audience in not a club audience, it's mostly extremely wealthy people that would never go see a bar or club band. Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Bluewine said: Hi Pete, Playing Ariba's on 124th & Hampton for St. Patty's Day this Saturday night. Ariba's is sort of like our home. Great crowd and great sounding room. Low ceiling with carpeted floors. I agree, yeah Steven is Yank and probably close to the top on my short list. But you guys have Freddie & Mick, those guys are the definitive frontmen. Blue I'm wondering how you're all going to get away with performing Oh Danny Boy in Arriba Mexican Restaurant on St Patrick's night. I'd watch out. Just be sure those green enchiladas aren't just last year's masquerading as Irish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 8 hours ago, Horrorhiker said: Not half. This is what Mumford and Sons would be like if they watched Sister Act all the time instead of The Waltons. 5 hours ago, Bluewine said: I like them... Which? The Waltons or Mumford and Sons? I like the Walton's version of Sex on Fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horrorhiker Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 38 minutes ago, SpondonBassed said: Which? The Waltons or Mumford and Sons? I like the Walton's version of Sex on Fire. I can't stand anything that's 'faux'. Artificial road wear, shabby chic, Mumford and Sons, Vintage Trouble and overtly vintage fashion (gaudy and expensive 50s dress shops 👎) all fall under the same category for me. No offence to anyone that likes any of those obviously. Each to their own and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Horrorhiker said: I can't stand anything that's 'faux'. Artificial road wear, shabby chic, Mumford and Sons, Vintage Trouble and overtly vintage fashion (gaudy and expensive 50s dress shops 👎) all fall under the same category for me. No offence to anyone that likes any of those obviously. Each to their own and all that. You might be having a hard time because of that. Very little in so-called civilised society is actually real. We live our lives with a thin veneer of civility that barely conceals our embarrassing animal urges. This is as true in the 21st century as it has always been. BTW, you needn't search for the Waltons' cover of Sex on Fire, it hasn't been officially released yet. Edited March 15, 2018 by SpondonBassed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No. 8 Wire Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 9 hours ago, gjones said: I always think vintage trouble are trying just a bit too hard. Is this an Austin Powers tribute band? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 22 minutes ago, No. 8 Wire said: Is this an Austin Powers tribute band? Nah. It's summat to do with that Peaky Blinders' themed gig that @Les attended recently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) Personally I think Este Haim has a great balance of playing and subtle communication with the crowd Edited March 15, 2018 by mrtcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No. 8 Wire Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 23 minutes ago, SpondonBassed said: Nah. It's summat to do with that Peaky Blinders' themed gig that @Les attended recently. I should have guessed seeing that Arthur is moonlighting on the kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horrorhiker Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 52 minutes ago, SpondonBassed said: You might be having a hard time because of that. Very little in so-called civilised society is actually real. We live our lives with a thin veneer of civility that barely conceals our embarrassing animal urges. This is as true in the 21st century as it has always been. BTW, you needn't search for the Waltons' cover of Sex on Fire, it hasn't been officially released yet. Not really. I realise its all around but its when its done intentionally and in a contrived way that bothers me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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