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Al Krow

If you could only choose one overdrive pedal?

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13 minutes ago, burno70 said:

I've gone for the Mojomojo, lets hope it it works well with my pups 😉

Well the nice thing is that it is pretty opposite end of the spectrum to the B3K, which you already have, so you'll be able to compare and contrast and see which works for you with which basses / pups. And I'd definitely recommend trying a pic (if you aren't already) and see the difference it makes vs fingers.

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3 hours ago, dannybuoy said:

I would probably say the other way around, which goes to show you probably shouldn't listen to anyone!

This is what it boils down to. Ultimately the only way to know for sure is to try the pedals out in person with your own bass/amp etc.

Hopefully the mojojojo works out!

 

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 I haven't tried a heap of pedals, but have found a pretty good overdrive sound in a band mix, by running a standard Boss ODB-3 through a Line Selector, and then blending the OD or fuzz 50/50 with a clean sound.  

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The ODB-3 has separate level controls for clean and dirty, so I would’ve thought the LS-2 would be redundant?

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@dannybuoy

So what has made the final 'cut' onto your pedal boards in terms of dirt?

TC Mojomojo and Joyo American?

 

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Joyo AS is only used as a crunchy amp sim for the octave up fake guitar sound.

Mojomojo for a fat dirty boost if playing more classic rock / blues / etc with a P Bass.

DP-3X for more modern rock with my BB1025X. Also keeping the Agro, B3K and Alpha Omega on standby! Everything else is on the way out.

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My current fave is Broughton's Terraformer. Breaks up nicely, from light OD to pretty gainy stuff, no low-end loss, and so many tones hence its 3EQ, blend and gain combinations. The tricky part is setting the blend on the fly as it has a major effect on output level. But it doesn't sound 'layered' at all. Nice form-factor too. 

Second one would be Grizzly bass, Swell B-Peg too, which is less flexible, bigger and has specific power needs, but sounds damn right !

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Solidgold FX Beta - got a fair bit of love earlier in this thread. I really like that it is specially tuned JFET preamp with light germanium diode clipping which creates a tube amp-like character (which I would expect / hope given the price differential(!) would knock the Mojomojo out the park?)

@Japhet I think you may have one of these? Was there a big step up from the MkI to the MkII? According the Solidgold marketing gumf:

"Our Beta MKII is a beefed-up version of the original Beta circuit, giving you plenty of tube-like gain without the fizz or hassle. Two modes of operation dictate the amount of grime, tonal colorization, or both. These modes are Preamp and Overdrive. The Beta MKII’s Preamp side disengages the Gain control for a smooth, even-keeled preamp colorization. Both Tone and Volume controls are active in this position, for a subtle sweetening that you’ll never turn off—think of those old Muscle Shoals tones or an Ampeg B15 Portaflex. Flicking the switch to Overdrive mode reconnects the Gain control and gives you as much breakup as you could want, giving you harmonically-rich overdrive without being too aggressive or snappy. It sits just the way you want it to without overpowering anyone else."

So it seems to me that there are two key changes between the MkI and the MkII

a) the two mode switch

b) less 'fizz' 

...and then there is then the Beta DLX, which takes things on even further. Although the DLX may have more options in terms of a: "three-position switch controls which type of clipping diodes are present in the drive channel. The left position selects a silicon-germanium hybrid for a bit more compression and crunch, the right position selects silicon parts for a bit more dynamics and sizzle, and the centre position removes them altogether for a raw, throaty tone"

I think (but I maybe wrong) that the non DLX version has a 'pure' germanium chip rather than a silicon-germanium hybrid?

Doesn't seem to get anything like air time that DG pedals or even Two Notes le Bass pedals have had on our forums. Have we BCer's been missing a trick?

@dood have you reviewed these in your travels, buddy?

 

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Not even close IMHO, the Mojomojo wins that fight.

I bought the Beta when it first came out, moved it on pretty quickly as it was very muddy with a baked in bass boost. I actually bought a second one a few years later as I was using a very bright sounding always on Darkglass B3K/M900 sound and wanted a darker sounding drive pedal to boost into it.

It worked pretty well for this purpose, and it went on my band board. But listening to the pedal direct it was pretty bland, and the drive quite harsh and fizzy. Not tubey at all, very transistor like - a lot like a tubescreamer in fact, just with hyped lows and subdued highs. The Mojomojo has just as much (or even more if you want it) low end depth but the drive is much more natural sounding, a softer top end yet with more clarity / less mud than the Beta. I can happily play a P-Bass into a Mojomojo direct into headphones, and I couldn’t say the same for the Beta.

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On 13 June 2018 at 09:13, dannybuoy said:

The ODB-3 has separate level controls for clean and dirty, so I would’ve thought the LS-2 would be redundant?

Makes sense, but I definitely found it to be an improvement with the LS-2.  It's a safe bet as I know I can kick the OD in and always have a clean signal and no loss of low end, regardless of how much I fosters about with the settings on the OD.  Like I said, I'm not an effects guru, so probably won't be tweaking much beyond this as I'm fairly happy with the OD and fuzz sound, whereas before I always used to feel it sucked the life out of the bass.  

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14 hours ago, Al Krow said:

Solidgold FX Beta - got a fair bit of love earlier in this thread. I really like that it is specially tuned JFET preamp with light germanium diode clipping which creates a tube amp-like character (which I would expect / hope given the price differential(!) would knock the Mojomojo out the park?)

@Japhet I think you may have one of these? Was there a big step up from the MkI to the MkII? According the Solidgold marketing gumf:

"Our Beta MKII is a beefed-up version of the original Beta circuit, giving you plenty of tube-like gain without the fizz or hassle. Two modes of operation dictate the amount of grime, tonal colorization, or both. These modes are Preamp and Overdrive. The Beta MKII’s Preamp side disengages the Gain control for a smooth, even-keeled preamp colorization. Both Tone and Volume controls are active in this position, for a subtle sweetening that you’ll never turn off—think of those old Muscle Shoals tones or an Ampeg B15 Portaflex. Flicking the switch to Overdrive mode reconnects the Gain control and gives you as much breakup as you could want, giving you harmonically-rich overdrive without being too aggressive or snappy. It sits just the way you want it to without overpowering anyone else."

So it seems to me that there are two key changes between the MkI and the MkII

a) the two mode switch

b) less 'fizz' 

...and then there is then the Beta DLX, which takes things on even further. Although the DLX may have more options in terms of a: "three-position switch controls which type of clipping diodes are present in the drive channel. The left position selects a silicon-germanium hybrid for a bit more compression and crunch, the right position selects silicon parts for a bit more dynamics and sizzle, and the centre position removes them altogether for a raw, throaty tone"

I think (but I maybe wrong) that the non DLX version has a 'pure' germanium chip rather than a silicon-germanium hybrid?

Doesn't seem to get anything like air time that DG pedals or even Two Notes le Bass pedals have had on our forums. Have we BCer's been missing a trick?

@dood have you reviewed these in your travels, buddy?

 

I've only used the Mk1 version Al. I like a clean amp and use pedals to create any drive so that I can get the same sound at any volume. The Beta was used as an 'always on' at the start of the signal chain to give a smattering of break up - think Motown. I really like it in that situation but not so much with flats. To my ears it sounded great with my Stingray but the Precision/flats combination did make it sound a bit too muddy. I'm currently experimenting and have a sound I like from an Ampeg Scrambler (always on) at the front end and a One Control Hookers Green further along to boost the drive tone when needed. No doubt the Beta will be back on the board at some point though. To be honest, I don't think I hear half the stuff other people seem to though.

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