karlfer Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 [url="https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/EBS-R500/bass-amp-heads/ebs-reidmar-500-bass-amp-head"]https://www.anderton...0-bass-amp-head[/url] New or am I misreading it? Or are EBS playing at being TC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggy Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 http://ebssweden.com/content2/2017-editions-new-reidmar-500-session-combos-at-namm/ New, it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronJ Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I have no idea why EBS didn't release this along with the other two Reidmars in the first place. Although I suppose the 500 watt Class D market is pretty flooded as it is so maybe it wasn't a particular priority for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 The Reidmar use a D-class power amp providing 470 W Dynamic Output @ 4 ohms load (250 W RMS). Weight is 3.1 kg (7.0 lbs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Its a 250Watt amp. I think that is what the OP was getting at. There was no such thing as Dynamic Output watts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markstuk Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) [quote name='Chienmortbb' timestamp='1488208425' post='3246782'] Its a 250Watt amp. I think that is what the OP was getting at. There was no such thing as Dynamic Output watts. [/quote] Very similar to Behringer and Bugera watts Edited February 27, 2017 by markstuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markstuk Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 And I look forward to the Reidmar 1400 being released real soon :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danuman Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 What's with these alternative watts?! And from once respectable brands, no less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markstuk Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 [quote name='Danuman' timestamp='1488229878' post='3247104'] What's with these alternative watts?! And from once respectable brands, no less. [/quote] There are a couple of ways to look at this - the concept that "tube" watts are perceived as being bigger than solid state watts... TC make a good case for their APM being "like" a tube amp, but it's annoying that it took a while to get the info out of them... Partly it's our fault as we simply look at the number of watts (thankfully RMS) an amp produces as the main thing.. From what I hear the Reidmars are considered pretty loud regardless.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danuman Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I guess you have a point. However, I'm more than slightly miffed at some of the big brands when they, ahem, seem to be implying what they're implying. It's hard enough to extrapolate what'll work in a live context, even without these semi-fudged numbers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markstuk Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 [quote name='Danuman' timestamp='1488232654' post='3247143'] I guess you have a point. However, I'm more than slightly miffed at some of the big brands when they, ahem, seem to be implying what they're implying. It's hard enough to extrapolate what'll work in a live context, even without these semi-fudged numbers... [/quote] I have "real watts" amps (thunderfunk TF750A and a Glockenklang Heart Rock2) and a TC RH750.. The RH750 is plenty loud enough..... As loud in perceived terms as the Mesa Prodigy Four:88 I had.. The Class A/B amps have more "thud" than the RH though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danuman Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) I've used TC gear for years and I've loved most of it, but it still feels a bit underhand to inflate the numbers like that. Some of their marketing strategies are starting to affect how I feel about the brand. At one point I was interested in the Reidmar (before the 750 arrived), but ultimately I concluded it didn't have the power I needed. I have no idea why, but for a brief moment I thought the Reidmar 500 would provide 500 actual watts. (Loudness notwithstanding ) Edited February 28, 2017 by Danuman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 The 500 replaces the 470 model. I think it is a bit smaller and a bit lighter in comparison. In review, I thought the 750 was very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 One of these days I will write a thread on watts and amplifier classes and valves V SS. I need to get fit including taking lots of Vitamin D ( and in the interest of fairness Vitamins A, B and A/. On a serious note I need to be in the right frame of mind as I know it will generate lots of ill-informed flack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Their product naming gets confusing. The older "250 watt" Reidmar had the reputation of being loud for it's rating, and I have no idea if this is intended to be the same output as that was or more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopsdabassist Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Yup, I'm confused, as my Reidmar 250 produces 250 watts at 4 ohm..and yes it IS feckin loud, I got it as backup to my Eden WT400, which it blew into the weeds! Looking at the specs it seems to me they have just re badged mine as a 500.....poor show! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 [quote name='Oopsdabassist' timestamp='1488442342' post='3248913'] Yup, I'm confused, as my Reidmar 250 produces 250 watts at 4 ohm..and yes it IS feckin loud, I got it as backup to my Eden WT400, which it blew into the weeds! Looking at the specs it seems to me they have just re badged mine as a 500.....poor show! [/quote] Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 [quote name='Chienmortbb' timestamp='1488412404' post='3248820']I need to be in the right frame of mind as I know it will generate lots of ill-informed flack. [/quote] Ill-informed flak? On Basschat?!?! Surely not.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 [quote name='Chienmortbb' timestamp='1488208425' post='3246782'] Its a 250Watt amp. I think that is what the OP was getting at. There was no such thing as Dynamic Output watts. [/quote] So, basicly they rebadged the original Reidmar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isteen Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 It's a new smaller version of the old 250 watt Reidmar, and I have the power I need in that small package Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 [i][color=#231F20]"With two amps together, connected through the Effects loop (Send from one to Return on the other), you can drive two 4 ohm cabinets, getting a separate volume control for each cabinet while using the EQ from the one you plug in to"[/color][/i] [color=#231F20] [/color][color=#231F20] [/color] [color=#231F20]What an odd suggestion! Why would anyone wish to do such a thing? [/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isteen Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1494573387' post='3297012'] [i][color=#231F20]"With two amps together, connected through the Effects loop (Send from one to Return on the other), you can drive two 4 ohm cabinets, getting a separate volume control for each cabinet while using the EQ from the one you plug in to"[/color][/i] [color=#231F20] [/color][color=#231F20] [/color] [color=#231F20]What an odd suggestion! Why would anyone wish to do such a thing? [/color] [/quote] Stereo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Class D watts have to be smaller than tube watts, in order to fit in the smaller amp case. Simples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1494573387' post='3297012'] [i][color=#231F20]"With two amps together, connected through the Effects loop (Send from one to Return on the other), you can drive two 4 ohm cabinets, getting a separate volume control for each cabinet while using the EQ from the one you plug in to"[/color][/i] [color=#231F20] [/color] [color=#231F20]What an odd suggestion! Why would anyone wish to do such a thing? [/color] [/quote] If you are an EBS cab owner and already have 2 of their 4 ohm cabs. Separate volume - I guess it's so you can balance the volume output between two different configurations of cab. Would hardly say it's a marketing point to be made though. I think EBS have lost the plot compared to what they once were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronJ Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Ugh. I've just re-read the OP's post and link. Misleadingly rebadged Reidmar 250 it is then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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