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[quote name='wombatboter' timestamp='1476951836' post='3158667']
"Refuge of the road" by Joni Mitchell with Jaco on bass.....the phrasing, the sensitivity, the tone, the whole world he seems to open up....
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Oh man that honking multi-tracked fretless horn section. Unbelievable music. Totally brilliant

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[quote name='wombatboter' timestamp='1476951836' post='3158667']
"Refuge of the road" by Joni Mitchell with Jaco on bass.....the phrasing, the sensitivity, the tone, the whole world he seems to open up....
[/quote]Great choice. She once described other bass player's styles as 'putting a picket fence' around here music and subsequently how much he opened it up. Her planets must have really lined up when she got him in her touring band in '79 (along with that other slouch Pat Metheny)!

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Probably quite a few but 2 that stand out for me is the bass riff from mid section of Tom Sawyer by Rush. Just a catchy little riff that sounds great at that particular section of the song and then there's the bass line from Elton Johns Nikita which just has a nice mid punch and gorgeous tone. Not even sure if it is a bass or a bass synth but i like it.

Dave

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Has to be the one that made me pick up the bass in the first place 35 years ago, and the one i still aspire to,
Squib cakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvJH0x1CTho
a track on my all time fave album Tower of Power Back to oakland,
my daughter has just found a mint copy for my birthday, :gas:
iv now got the old one framed in the studio.
all the Inspiration i will ever need is contained right there.

And cus i dont want to leave it out, "For once in my life" i dont think i will ever come up with a line as beautiful as that.

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[quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1477051805' post='3159524']
Probably quite a few but 2 that stand out for me is the bass riff from mid section of Tom Sawyer by Rush. Just a catchy little riff that sounds great at that particular section of the song and then there's the bass line from Elton Johns Nikita which just has a nice mid punch and gorgeous tone. Not even sure if it is a bass or a bass synth but i like it.
Dave
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Yes, lovely tone and excellent playing. David Paton on a defretted Musicman.
I love how the line develops and builds.

[quote name='funkgod' timestamp='1477054687' post='3159550']
Has to be the one that made me pick up the bass in the first place 35 years ago, and the one i still aspire to,
Squib cakes.
[url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvJH0x1CTho"]https://www.youtube....h?v=pvJH0x1CTho[/url]
a track on my all time fave album Tower of Power Back to oakland,
my daughter has just found a mint copy for my birthday, :gas:
iv now got the old one framed in the studio.
all the Inspiration i will ever need is contained right there.
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One of my favourite all time albums as well. I still have my Vinyl copy upstairs somewhere. :D

Apart from stunning playing from Rocco and David Garibald on the album, the Brass and Wind Harmonizing is top dollar.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlLVRGb7g7Q&index=3&list=PLG2na-qjU_4qSht7FO2LYmIk9ZWjuNLv8[/media]

Oh go on then. :lol:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7T5rVp6hWA&index=5&list=PLG2na-qjU_4qSht7FO2LYmIk9ZWjuNLv8[/media]

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[quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1476781682' post='3157102']
To each their own, but I was never much into the bass as a solo instrument. No doubt there are great artists doing this. For me, while it may not be "nirvana," I have always loved Peter Cetera's playing on the early (first four) CHICAGO albums, especially their first one, "Chicago Transit Authority". His playing was influential in me taking up the bass, and today I often listen to and admire his playing on these albums.
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THIS ^^

A genuinely underrated and brilliant bassist!

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[quote name='Deedee' timestamp='1476900828' post='3158330']
+1 to this. Saw him with Wilko in Sheffield a couple of weeks back. Absolutely blown away.
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[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Loved him since day one but God does he make it look like hard work. Think Im just more drawn to players who make it look effortless. [/font][/color]

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[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1477061553' post='3159627']
Yes, lovely tone and excellent playing. David Paton on a defretted Musicman.
I love how the line develops and builds.



One of my favourite all time albums as well. I still have my Vinyl copy upstairs somewhere. :D

Apart from stunning playing from Rocco and David Garibald on the album, the Brass and Wind Harmonizing is top dollar.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlLVRGb7g7Q&index=3&list=PLG2na-qjU_4qSht7FO2LYmIk9ZWjuNLv8[/media]

Oh go on then. :lol:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7T5rVp6hWA&index=5&list=PLG2na-qjU_4qSht7FO2LYmIk9ZWjuNLv8[/media]
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Ah you have good taste, ;) loads of fantastic moments on that Lp, i love that seamless change in squib cakes just before the hammond solo where it goes to hammond bass pedals, ( about from 4:10 of your clip) took me ages to learn that before i realised it was chester thompson. :o real bass comes back in about 6:50.
i was in a funk band years ago that did that track and when it came to that bit i had to learn it as the key player could not do it, there is an awkward little bit in it i found tasking to get right.from about 5:15 on, again ... timing !
"just when we start making it" has one of the best changes in feel i have ever heard, the bit about 4:44 after the drum roll where it goes into swing, rocco's playing there is fantastic, he manages to keep the swing feel but also keep his signiture feel by putting in them quad note runs, when i play swing i cant help but do this now, i just cant stop doin it :lol:
also, have you ever tried to get that feel on " can't you see " the timing in the gaps in his playing all the way through it, masterfull.
i got the chop always reminds me of the jackson 5, ....
id better stop now, al be here all day.

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When this question is inevitably asked again in a years time I bet nearly everybody gives a different answer.

I'm currently overwhelmed by Jimmy Earl's "Haunt me" :

http://redmp3.su/9839074/jimmy-earl-haunt-me.html

My answer would be different tomorrow.

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For me the pinnacle isn't one single bass line. My personal pinnacle would be the time when I realise I can write and nail great bass lines and fills and solos on the fly which really complement a song. In terms of who I feel can do this currently then it's going to be Paul Turner, Joe Dart and a whole load of other groove players plus Pino Palladino. I totally understand that players like victor wooten are ridiculously talented but I can't really get into solo style stuff. In fact Nathan East doing his sir Duke thing a couple of years back made me sell my NE signature yamaha lol.

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[quote name='seashell' timestamp='1476822011' post='3157632']
Andy Fraser, 'Mr Big'.
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You beat me to it! I'm not normally a fan of flash bass solos, but Mr Fraser's playing on this is just sublime. I've been unable to play it for the last couple of decades - perhaps it's time to have anotehr crack at it!

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[quote name='Leonard Smalls' timestamp='1477401293' post='3161983']
The pinnacle is something that there's no way in this world that I could even come near to...
Something like Stan's "School Days".
Here he is, with some friends!

[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdRG-hD5ZKo[/MEDIA]
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Haha.....Brilliant.
Although I should think for some on this board, it's a Halloween Nightmare. :)

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[quote name='Leonard Smalls' timestamp='1477408427' post='3162038']
:D

11 bass faces, far too many notes... What's not to like?

:gas:
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On the original studio version, the Guitar playing from Ray Gomez often gets overlooked, especially the early opening solo.
That's a bit :gas: as well. Definitely out there.

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It's an era and a genre for me - 70s rock music, when bassists like Trevor Bolder, Dennis Dunaway, John Entwistle and the like were playing melodic lines with assorted fills and grace notes. Then the 80s came along and it seemed to move to constant root notes (with the odd exception like Duran Duran and Pino's playing for Paul Young). There seemed to be more freeness to bass back then.

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[quote name='jazzyvee' timestamp='1476800762' post='3157353']
Hard choice but Stanley Clarkes bass line on Duel of the Jester & the Tyrant from the return to forever album Romantic Warrior is pretty close to the top
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Good choice. I transcribed that 1,000 years ago (long lost chart). Can still sing the whole bass part (that's the value of transcription)

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I can't narrow it down but it is great fun to try. Jaco's opening lines on 'In France They Kiss On Main Street' off Shadows and Light are the first lines I heard by him with Joni and still move me. Percy Jones on 'Product' was why I bought a Wal and John Giblin's work on 'April' figured highly also. With Jimmy Johnson it was his work with the Wayne Johnson Trio that captured my interest and 'Grasshopper' was the first track I heard and adored (and still do). Jeff Berlin has not interested my for years but his work on Buford's 'Feels Good To Me' was exquisite, especially 'Either End Of August'. As for pinnacle; there are too many variable for me to home in on one thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUCKZFaAUFI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGRx5Ja2stc

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