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[xgsjx]

What about an Ampeg SVT 8x10?

I liked the MarkBass 102STD 2x10. Quite an uncoloured sound, though I think there's maybe a slight mid hump.

Most Barefaced cabs are "get out what you put in", but the only 2x10 they do is the Retro Two10, which apparently has a rather retro sound to it (weird that).

[tbonepete]

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[FuNkShUi]

Ive used the PUMA and that certainly does super clean.
Can i ask why you're adament on 2X10s? Any reason in particular?
If you are only using them for monitoring would you even need 2 of them?
The flattest response cab i've ever played through is Barefaced.

[wateroftyne]

Why so stuck on 2x10s? (to echo everyone else...)

[tbonepete]

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[largo]

Just buy the 2 Vanderkley 210mnts that Bassdirect have for sale at the moment. Might be seen as boutique by some but ticks all your boxes.

[wateroftyne]

I'm still intrigued why you're set on a 2x10. If you tell us why, it'll give us more info about what properties you're looking for, and help people make recommendations.

[largo]

Because 12's are rubbish and 210's are the future?

[Guest bassman7755]

[quote name='tbonepete' timestamp='1441956144' post='2863177']
I have my reasons for asking for two 2x10 cabs, and I have my reasons for asking for a specific type of amp too, but it would take far too long justifying my reasons, especially as they're not pertinent to the questions.
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I suppose what has us perplexed somewhat is that your amp selection criteria is based on sound characteristics whereas the cab requirements seem somewhat arbitrary. If we had more insight into what your thinking we might be able to come up with some more innovative solution e.g. use a couple of self powered PA speakers.

[LewisK1975]

+1 for Tecamp PUMA - definitely the most transparent sounding amp I've played through - I use it set flat through Barefaced supercompacts and it's perfect for receiving a pedal board. It's been said that the EQ on the PUMAs is better suited for room correction rather than sound shaping, and I'd tend to agree with that.

I understand you have a very set idea about what you want, but when you are asking for recommendations, personally I think you need to be open minded about people's responses, as we are all only able to recommend based on our own experience of what WE consider may be suitable for you.

[Lw.]

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Thanks Lw. Are the YouTube clips of the LWA amps and ads in the bass player magazine for US customers only at this time?
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Warwick tend to use that really shouty guy for their online bass demos & it comes across very american but they are certainly available here in the UK - GAK can order them in, though I'd just order direct from Thomann then if you don't like it you can send it back very easily.

I've heard one at a gig & it had a great clean tone, similar enough to the youtube clips though obviously different as I was hearing it direct from the speakers not through my tiny work headphones. I don't know what the cab was though, it was completely de-badged, I've not heard their current batch of cabs either so can't comment on those.

I'm with you on the 210's though, I have absolutely no justification or scientific back-up for liking them but I do like 10" speakers for some reason (though I'm not actually against 12's and am considering them for the future) - if TKS did a lightweight 8ohm 210 in their current sexy styling I would probably have put two straight on my credit card.

[Conan]

What an odd thread! I'm confused now.

[tbonepete]

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[Conan]

That's cool Pete! No problem there

I'd just be really interested to hear your reasons for preferring 2x10 cabs over others, and why you are determined to avoid the "boutique" manufacturers. But I'm just nosey!

[Norris]

You could have a listen to the Fender Rumble 500. The amp is pretty clean if you don't engage any tone shaping circuits and they do a 2x10 cab, although you'd need a pair to get the full 500W (approx 350W into 8 ohms)

[JTUK]

The OP has his answers so this is not an attempt to steer back into that argument, but I've done the 210 and 12 thing many a time.

I currently 210 and 12 configs with differing amps.
I liked 2x210 at 4 ohms and one of my amps allows 2ohms so I've had as a big stack, 2x210 at 4 and 1x 212 at 8.
At very high power I felt one cab may have bottomed out so now I go 212/4 and 210/8.
I preferred the 2x210 sound but adding a 212 underneath gives me some comfort to handle the lower end.
It can be truly thunderous but I feel the 2x210 was slight more focused.

My compromise is to have the 210 on top and nearer head height and let the impedence split/balance the signal from a load POV.

I also run 2x112 cabs and like them..as do the bands I use them with, but still my preference is for 2x210's.

If I had a gig with a decent stage spec... I'd have an 810, no question, but it would follow that load-in and out would be a breeze as in wheeled cab/ramps etc and stage hands provided.

For other gigs with a car park and steps and all the other crap involved, I tend to have smaller options so my choice of rig is determined by
convenience. Both sounds are pretty sorted IMO... altho the full beans rig is the full beans, just that it isn't always practical.

Rig 2 which is a Demeter and 2 TKS S112 is not at all shoddy. I know I have a very good sound..unless I've done something dumb to screw it up

But yes, I'm a 10's guy typically.
Plenty of other things also in the equations as well, tho...
At low volume...everything can be pretty equal-ish..but at high power, all those bets are off..
Check in to the Vintage/hi-fi thread for an 'interesting' read

[tbonepete]

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[largo]

Are IEMs flat response?

[MoonBassAlpha]

Probably better than any cab

[bjelkeman]

Depends on the quality I would say. I have some that are rubbish, but then they where a bit cheap.

[Merton]

A true (or as close as can be) flat response cab will have a dedicated bass driver, mid driver and possibly a tweeter. A 2x10 is never going to offer that.

[pete.young]

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A true (or as close as can be) flat response cab will have a dedicated bass driver, mid driver and possibly a tweeter. A 2x10 is never going to offer that.
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Euphonic Audio VL 210 does. But you would never describe it as light weight!

[BluRay]

Straight answer to the OP. Take a look at Ashdown ABM 210 NEO. Fantastic build quality and response. I can't say whether it's exactly flat - but its not overtly coloured, and is very clear and articulate. Sounds ace with my amps and knocks the socks off anything else I've used in the last 2 years. Highly recommended.

http://ashdownmusic.com/products/1/B/2/ABM/30/ABM-210-NEO/

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[alexclaber]

[quote name='Merton' timestamp='1442043432' post='2863954']
A true (or as close as can be) flat response cab will have a dedicated bass driver, mid driver and possibly a tweeter.
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It won't, you can definitely make a flat* response 2x10", with the right 10"s crossing to a good tweeter at a low enough frequency - the EA NL210 and CX210 are both decent examples of that. Both are also definitely 'boutique' bass cabs.

3-way allows you to use a wider variety of woofers and use the crossover and mid driver to sort the response through the mids. 2-way needs either very specialist drivers or a huge tweeter that can cross over very low.

* It's all relative and I don't think flat is a good word - accurate is better.

[BassBod]

Any of the EA 2x10 cabs would be a very good match to requirements, but they are heavy and in the boutique category. Sound wonderful..as long as you really like your bass sound naked, with little seasoning. I would dare to suggest the Ashdown Retrogilde 800 with an EA 2x10 would be quite the thing.....