bubinga5 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) Its difficult for me to knock anyones playing, and i post with the best intentions , especially when someone is so technically proficiant as this guy. but its worth posting i think, and I'm sure other bassists will recognise this. Im in no way the oracle when it comes to playing, but i know good playing when i hear it. i heard this blind, thinking it was Francis Hylton. and thought blimey, he's throwing those notes in there. his timing is off, but realised it wasn't Francis. i think this is a good example, of why you should be a little more laid back and put in the fills when the music calls for it. its only my opinion and the guy is a great player in certain aspects.. but the balance between musical knowledge/technique/taste, is sometimes the hardest to master. its like me playing Reggae, god awful. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKYhwMFyWao&index=4&list=FLzVUqeF1SLjxa78y2gd03dQ[/media] Edited May 16, 2015 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurbs Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I think it is spot on. Matches the songs grove perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeEvans Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Lemmy once said of Level 42 that they were a great band and they'd sound even better with a bass player. Which I take to mean that there needs to be someone just holding the song together, and if the bassist is all over the neck doing constant solos, it leaves a hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) I'd agree with the OP in this case; the (superbly played) bassline is very driving, very Francis Rocco Prestia, but to me the song's groove is softer and more spacious than the bassline would suggest. Edit: listened again, and I think that the above still applies in the verses, but the chorus' have a different 'straighter' groove that is better matched with that bass playing Edited May 16, 2015 by Roland Rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntLockyer Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Only listened to the first 1 and a half minutes on my tablet but it sounded appropriate to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) And that example aside, yes you're right of course, too many notes can be a groove killer, and it's not always easy to get that perfect balance. Edited May 16, 2015 by Roland Rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) [quote name='Thurbs' timestamp='1431761947' post='2774637'] I think it is spot on. Matches the songs grove perfectly. [/quote]not so spot on when he's hitting the right note but on on the wrong time/drums at the start. intricate bass playing over a Key's solo.? its too much. give other musicians some space. he's not listening to the drummer either in parts. just my OP Edited May 16, 2015 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I liked the bassline. I don't like the bass sound. Needs the mids rolled back a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntLockyer Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 [quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1431763790' post='2774668'] not so spot on when he's hitting the right note but on on the wrong time/drums at the start. i like to follow my side man when it comes to the rhythm section. intricate bass playing over a Key's solo.? its too much. give other musicians some space. he's not listening to the drummer either in parts. just my OP [/quote] You should record a battle video of you doing the song post it to Youtube and show him who is boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Good playing and it sounds fine to me. It's just one of those busy numbers that some people like. I'm not really a fan of this style, I prefer more laid back playing but what this guy's doing this works in the context of this number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I thought it was gonna be just a bass clip as such. I heard all this diva type stuff going on, and haven't the patience to wait for the song to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 [quote name='AntLockyer' timestamp='1431765509' post='2774685'] You should record a battle video of you doing the song post it to Youtube and show him who is boss. [/quote]it was just an observation. maybe save the sarcasm for some other chump... i was just pointing out some something that Thurbs might not have heard. maybe i should have worded it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visog Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I thought it was rather good... that sort of music suits a bubbly funky bass line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I think the guy is ripping it as per the original.. and the fact that it is up front in the vid mix can depict as 'busy'...but that is the nature of the line and the fact that he has decided to highlight with his sound. I'd suggest the original track was mixed bown a tad re the bass... So, as with all these things, it is a snapshot demo... If he has played it well, or not...I think he must be happy enough to put it up there..?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 im a little surprised that know one can hear the drumming and where he places his first notes. never mind. i guess his busy bass lines are not to my taste. it would be boring if we all liked the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 just for reference. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTZg-dTUrV0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntLockyer Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 [quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1431766649' post='2774704'] it was just an observation. maybe save the sarcasm for some other chump... i was just pointing out some something that Thurbs might not have heard. maybe i should have worded it better. [/quote] Come on man, you put yourself out there with this thread in the same way he put himself out there with his video. I was trying to be light hearted about it but I have to be honest the post I quoted made me feel a little uncomfortable and sad. I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 which post made you feel uncomfortable and sad,? anyways no probs buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 This is the version he is playing over. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fRiwMHp8Tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1431770377' post='2774749'] So, excuse my ignorance here, is the guy NOT just doing a play along then? [/quote]looks like he's doing a playalong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sausage Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I didn't know Steve wright played bass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sausage Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I get bored of this genre quite quickly nowadays. I used to be quite into it, but after a while all these bands sound exactly the same. The songs sound the same, the sound of the group, etc. It's just a bit formulaic. It could be Jamiroquai, Incognito etc etc. Just with a different vocalist.....who all sing the same kind of melodies. I kind of feel the same about reggae. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 i get bored of country and western. doesn't mean i can't find something inspirational about the music with new artists.. that attitude says more about the person than the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sausage Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) [quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1431772450' post='2774786'] i get bored of country and western. doesn't mean i can't find something inspirational about the music with new artists.. that attitude says more about the person than the music. [/quote] Who's saying that? Am i not allowed to get bored easily by hearing the same kind of thing over and over! If something inspirational is in there then you'll pick it up. It depend on what inspires you really. With regards to attitude saying something about the person........ well your post says a lot! Plus you're criticising a guys playing and just expressing himself in the vid! What does that say with regards to person rather than the music! Edited May 16, 2015 by Lord Sausage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) Yep, I heard it all the first time around with these bands above mentioned, and indeed liked, and was into them. But I easily lose interest in them these days. Strangely enough, I will still listen regularly to Tower of Power, more than likely because I liked the tunes more, not to mention the superb brass and woodwind section writing. I think the guy in the OP video plays the track well, he is just jamming along and does a good job (IMO of course). Certainly heard a lot worse. Edited May 16, 2015 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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