jimbaby Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 [quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1396817516' post='2417715'] Sorry, but it's not "shopping malls that steal trade from local town centres forcing small businesses out of business" it's the people who stop using local town centres in favour of the shopping malls. So the real question is why do people prefer to shop elsewhere when given a choice? [/quote] I would disagree, if you put a supermarket beside a town centre it will suck the life blood from it, the smaller shops cannot compete price wise because of the bulk buying power of the giant which comes with free car parking which also puts them at an advantage. Not to mention the myriad of different products on sale designed to kill all businesses locally stone dead, they also have the gall to open local branches at higher prices once they have killed the competition off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfisher Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 So you'd prefer to pay more for your goods as well as your parking and carry your accumulating shopping as you walk from shop to shop? People are not forced to use supermarkets are they? So why do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panamonte Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 [quote name='ambient' timestamp='1396808475' post='2417578'] I love the orchestral album she made a few years ago - [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKQSlH-LLTQ"]https://www.youtube....h?v=tKQSlH-LLTQ[/url] Great orchestration by Vince Mendoza. [/quote] I really like Travelogue too - it's wonderful how her voice has changed over the years. I don't think any of the versions necessarily outshine the originals (although Sire of Sorrow is pretty extraordinary), but it's a beautiful, aching listen. Very hard to choose a favourite album, let alone song, but I think everything from Ladies of the Canyon through to Hejira is pretty much flawless. I never tire of listening to Joni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Not much to add except you can stick me in the Joni huggers camp too. A fine body of work over a long period and some of my favourite Jaco performances too, on the whole I think I like his stuff on the JM albums more than Weather report or solo. I must have most of her albums by now in some format or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaby Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 [quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1396863074' post='2417970'] So you'd prefer to pay more for your goods as well as your parking and carry your accumulating shopping as you walk from shop to shop? People are not forced to use supermarkets are they? So why do they? [/quote] Convenience and price as we have discussed, all I'm saying is they don't need to be in the vicinity of each other, that way the small biz has a chance and people who are so inclined can stroll round the shops in town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul j h Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Another Joni fan here, I think Hejira and chalk mark in a rainstorm (which is also a great album title) are my two favorites, fabulous bass playing, beautiful lyrics, everything that is great about Joni. I know others will disagree but I personally was not such a fan of her"jazz" period with Methany and Alias etc. Larry Klein gets overlooked in favour of Jaco but his output was just as special on her albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Anyways ... Back OT. I do agree KevB all my favourite Jaco stuff is with Joni There was a thread on here a while back about JM re her interview describing Jaco and her comments about him were very sympathetic and she certainly did appreciate just how much he suffered from the tortured artist syndrome amongst other MH issues and gave him space to do his thing Interesting to note that on live performances Pino chose to replicate the Jaco lines. Ery closely (the japan performance of Hejira springs to mind with Wayne shorter in the pinewood trees !) and personally i agree it's a perfect bass line and is integral to the song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Another Joni fan here! I really love all her 70s stuff....less so 80's onwards, but I do appreciate she had to go somewhere else musically. 2 of my faves - 'Don Juan's....' and 'Mingus'. Never seem to rate too highly, but I think they're amazing records. I was listening to them before I even knew who Jaco was, so once I started getting into that side, it opened up a whole new aspect of her records of that period. From 'Ladies' onward, for a good while she literally didn't put a musical foot wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMG456 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 [quote name='paul j h' timestamp='1396879417' post='2418268'] Another Joni fan here, I think Hejira and chalk mark in a rainstorm (which is also a great album title) are my two favorites, fabulous bass playing, beautiful lyrics, everything that is great about Joni. [/quote] Chalk Mark is probably my favourite Joni album too - fabulous songs - Lakota, the Tea Leaf Prophesy, Beat of Black Wings etc etc. I honestly don't think she put a foot wrong musically till the Taming the Tiger album. A strong return to form with Travelogue and I confess I don't know much about the last album. She's a bit of a nifty painter as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinynorman Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUo9C1vUt0A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Blue is amazing, great songs, and her voice is something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telebass Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Trying to learn Twisted as a vocal/bass solo a la Liz Frencham. Fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 [quote name='Wil' timestamp='1396916887' post='2418812'] Blue is amazing, great songs, and her voice is something else. [/quote] Surely one the best albums of all time. One of those rare L.Ps where every track is superb . If ever there was a record overdue to be featured on that Classic Albums documentary series then it [i]must [/i]be Blue by Joni Mitchell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassworm Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 The HIssing Of Summer Lawns is my favourite Joni album. And Max Bennett's playing is sublime on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merello Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Genius. Utter genius. Is there not a website dedicated to Joni alt tunings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 [quote name='merello' timestamp='1397071181' post='2420427'] Genius. Utter genius. Is there not a website dedicated to Joni alt tunings? [/quote] [url="http://jonimitchell.com/music/tuningpatterns.cfm"]http://jonimitchell.com/music/tuningpatterns.cfm[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandad Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I think I saw her at the Isle of Wight in 1970, can't remember much about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visog Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 [quote name='DaveFry' timestamp='1396814107' post='2417655'] Musings regarding Joni Mitchell .... At the beginning of this live recording she explains that after reading " Beethoven : His Spiritual Development " by J.W.N.Sullivan she was inspired to write this song from the angle of being Ludwig's personal muse and encouraging him to not give up . ( Ironically the volume fluctuates in this recording ) [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JDSQf-YMMw"]https://www.youtube....h?v=-JDSQf-YMMw[/url] My favourite Joni line is ; He sees the cars as sets of waves Sequences of mass and space from A Strange Boy off the Hejira album [/quote] Spooky! Me too! I love that album but it's so melancholic. 'Refuge of the Roads' shows off Jaco at his lyrical best with multi-tracked basses. Agree with all the praise from this thread. There's a really good Sky documentary on her tracking her early 60's coffee shop roots to her finding her daughter and grand-child. Very moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 just found this little gem [url="http://youtu.be/A9dkTq-HAfc"]http://youtu.be/A9dkTq-HAfc[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alembic63 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) [quote name='lonestar' timestamp='1396814227' post='2417659'] I really like dog eat dog too even with 80's production,curtesy Thomas Dolby, and more Larry Klein good works? In fact Check out the lineup on that album [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_Eat_Dog_(Joni_Mitchell_album"]http://en.wikipedia...._Mitchell_album[/url]) What a band! [/quote] +1 for dog eat dog Miles of aisles for me and the best version of this....bar none [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnykAmjpmDo[/media] Edited June 7, 2014 by alembic63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UglyDog Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 [quote name='lonestar' timestamp='1396814227' post='2417659'] I really like dog eat dog too even with 80's production,curtesy Thomas Dolby, and more Larry Klein good works? In fact Check out the lineup on that album http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_Eat_Dog_(Joni_Mitchell_album) What a band! [/quote]I remember seeing an interview with Thomas Dolby where it was mentioned that Joni M disliked the production on that album and had said that it felt like being "interior-decorated out of her own home". Dolby's reaction to that was "Well it was about time she moved house anyway..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestar Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 (edited) Even the disagreements are lyrica!Great response from Mr Dolby. Edited June 8, 2014 by lonestar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 My mate and I used to listen to about 6 or 7 different Joni Mitchell albums while we worked. Just beautiful music and lyrics. I'd better dig the CDs back out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 [b][url="http://fyeahjonimitchell.tumblr.com/"]ALL THINGS JONI[/url][/b] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ead Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Personal favourite album is Hejira. Some nice fretless playing going down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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