Conan Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) [quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1386852272' post='2305317'] The voting options are two one-dimensional. I think they are both good and bad. Here's what I think. Pros: Great sounding cabs (to a lot of people) Light and portable Cons: Some question marks over quality of product Expensive for what they are Some question marks about customer service Some question marks about supply chain [/quote] Fair enough. Would that not be option 4? I tried my best... Edited December 12, 2013 by Conan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='Clarky' timestamp='1386851821' post='2305307'] For the OP, Bill Fitzmaurice = BF as well as Barefaced = BF [/quote] True - but many of the criticisms of BF apply to both IME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Beedster' timestamp='1386851794' post='2305305'] Fair enough, if it were Fender, Ric, Warwick I don't see a problem, seems potentially unfair on what is after all a one man show. The web is a big audience? [/quote] Yes, that's a good point. I certainly did not intend this to be a platform for anyone to have a go at anyone else. However, some of the comments addressed at Alex Claber and users of his products have already been excessively vitriolic IMO. He is clearly seen as fair game to some. Besides, I have chosen most of the poll options to reflect opinions I have already seen expressed in a number of threads relating to BF/BF products. If this poll contravenes any forum rules, I have no issue with it being locked and/or removed. Edited December 12, 2013 by Conan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1386849721' post='2305273'] What are your feelings about BF cabs? I don't know but I've just checked out his new Simplexx cabs. [/quote] What have barefaced got to do with the new BFM designs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1386852272' post='2305317'] The voting options are two one-dimensional. I think they are both good and bad. Here's what I think. Pros: Great sounding cabs (to a lot of people) Light and portable Cons: Some question marks over quality of product Expensive for what they are Some question marks about customer service Some question marks about supply chain [/quote] I think this is a very fair sum up... but for me, the tone of these cabs are also a con (again, this is subjective). Regarding myself, only the light and portable aspect appeals. At the premium that the cabs are, there are far too many cons in that list for my liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1386852988' post='2305338'] What have barefaced got to do with the new BFM designs? [/quote] Confusion, confusion!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1386852357' post='2305320'] So far, apart from the one vote for option 1 (which I assume was Alex Claber or someone taking the piss ), the results are going pretty much as I suspected they would [/quote] Yeah, sorry about that. Of course, there are lot of people who won't bother entertaining the survey for starters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twigman Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 should've been a public poll does this forum do those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1386846907' post='2305223'] I went for the couldn't give a monkeys option... In fact why am I even here? [/quote] Your support is appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1386852849' post='2305335'] Yes, that's a good point. I certainly did not intend this to be a platform for anyone to have a go at anyone else. However, some of the comments addressed at Alex Claber and users of his products have already been excessively vitriolic IMO. He is clearly seen as fair game to some. [/quote] Interesting. I can't think of a single post that I have seen where somebody has been slagged off for owning a Barefaced cab. All criticisms about the BF product range seem to be about the product, not the owners... or Alex's own attitude - with regard to the way that he posts on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1386853044' post='2305341'] At the premium that the cabs are, there are far too many cons in that list for my liking. [/quote] Maybe - but there are very few people who have listed those as "cons". A sense of balance is always useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1386853272' post='2305348'] or Alex's own attitude - with regard to the way that he posts on here. [/quote] Ah! Now we are getting somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyonbass Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='andydye' timestamp='1386844089' post='2305180'] tried one, liked it, would have another if my EAD was swallowed by a whale or stolen, can't see me parting with it otherwise though [/quote] Plus one ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='andyonbass' timestamp='1386853547' post='2305356'] Plus one ;-) [/quote] Andy, why aren't you working!? (My excuse - working at home and having my well-earned lunch break.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyonbass Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1386853666' post='2305358'] Andy, why aren't you working!? (My excuse - working at home and having my well-earned lunch break.) [/quote] I'm on my break too - taking advantage of the BC mobile app! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebassman Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I don't get all the love/ hate feelings towards these cabs.............. i do look forward to a new BF thread though. it's always good for a laugh. I owned a early BF compact/ midget T set up for a while. I wasn't that keen on the looks or sounds i was getting with my OTB 500. I have now got a GB shuttlemax 9.2, and would love to hear it through either a gen 3 big twin or even a vintage. cheers thebassman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1386853443' post='2305351'] Ah! Now we are getting somewhere! [/quote] Well, it's a valid point. In foamgate, the first response was a deflection, pointing out what other manufacturers do. If I was BF owner, I wouldn't want to hear about other cabs, I would want to know why my cab is spewing foam. The fact that other manufacturers may not be using wadding is actually of no relevance in that thread. This wouldn't be limited to BF, it would apply to any company's cab that I happened to be using. Edited December 12, 2013 by EBS_freak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTypeV4 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Is it me or does this all seem a trifle ridiculous not to mention a waste of time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skychaserhigh Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Did someone mention trifle ?? Now that sounds good to me ...nothing too heavy though ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolomonHelsing Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='VTypeV4' timestamp='1386859398' post='2305495'] Is it me or does this all seem a trifle ridiculous not to mention a waste of time? [/quote] Funny, and hence why i'm still the only person that went for option 10 What do I know, Self proclaimed ashdown b*tch here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1386859571' post='2305501'] Of course not! Only a few more days to go and then EVERY thread on Basschat will be about Barefaced! All publicity is good publicity! It's gold! [/quote] I tried to PM you but you've blocked me from sending you PMs. Stop playing hard to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='SolomonHelsing' timestamp='1386860636' post='2305542'] What do I know, Self proclaimed ashdown b*tch here [/quote] Like the smoke and flames do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 The is something wrong with the poll generator software - two categories that should have at least one or two votes in are showing blank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I've voted. Bet you can't guess which category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 [quote name='Toasted' timestamp='1386860685' post='2305546'] I tried to PM you but you've blocked me from sending you PMs. Stop playing hard to get. [/quote] Gosh, I wonder how that happened?? Try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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