Mornats Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 [quote name='bagsieblue' timestamp='1377205396' post='2184893'] The 'de facto' passive bass for me is a (Fender) P bass. [/quote] Ah yes, but I am fond of rolling onto the bridge pickup and giving it a bit of jazz Mind you, I could always keep my Overwater classic J for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 [quote name='bagsieblue' timestamp='1377205396' post='2184893'] The 'de facto' passive bass for me is a (Fender) P bass. [/quote] Can't argue with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornats Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 [quote name='bagsieblue' timestamp='1377205396' post='2184893'] The 'de facto' passive bass for me is a (Fender) P bass. [/quote] I don't think many people could argue with that. However I'm not after a de facto P bass specifically I'm looking for something that doesn't lose the passive split/single coil sound and has a J pup at the back. I have this in my Overwater Classic J but it's bigger and heavier than the much-easier-to=play Fender Jaguar that I played, so hence my search for the same thing but in a smaller package. Mind you, if I ended up with a Fender P and it fit the size/weight/playability criteria I wouldn't be at all upset. I could keep my Classic J for the J sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 If you like the Jaguar and the P/J layout, why not try the Squier VM? Very light and comes in at less than half your budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyellowcar Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I'm currently torn between the CV and VM Precisions. Played both, the CV felt incredibly solid and well put together, but the pickup in the VM had a real growl to the tone that wasn't quite there with the CV! Decisions decisions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornats Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 I tried a few out today. First up was a Squier VM Jazz, then I tried a Fender American Jazz with Custom Shop pickups and then a Mexican Jazz. The Squier was brilliant, nice, light, a little more compact than my Overwater and almost walked out of the shop with me. I tried the American Fender next which was a little chunkier, a little heavier, almost identical build quality and sounded a little nice (the custom shop pups maybe?) but absolutely not worth almost £1000 more. In fact you could have swapped the labels and I would have believed it. The Mexican Jazz was crap, as have all Mexican Jazz's that I've played have been. I tried an American Fender P too but it didn't feel as nice as the Squier really. The Squier Jazz's front pup soloed sounded as good as the P pup on the Precision too. I tried an Ibanez (not sure which model) but didn't like any of it. I also tried a Squier VM tele bass but the pup's too small for me to rest my thumb on so that was out. So, my thoughts after my first outing are that I should maybe seriously consider that Squier and grab some upgraded pups - maybe even two Overwater J pups to go in it. The hunt continues though, as I haven't tried half the basses on my list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Cloud Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 [quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1377169521' post='2184189'] Yamaha BB1024(x)? Vintage passive tones by the bucketload, looks lovely and cracking build quality. Second hand costs maybe £500-600. Truckstop [/quote] Agree with this. Do yourself a favour and avoid going down the same old F route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocco Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I know it's not a fender, but I'm gonna suggest you have a look at a Peavey T-40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinball Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 [quote name='cocco' timestamp='1377376200' post='2186945'] I know it's not a fender, but I'm gonna suggest you have a look at a Peavey T-40 [/quote] I thought about those or Ibanez Roadsters....so many nice basses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocco Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 [quote name='Pinball' timestamp='1377376491' post='2186952'] I thought about those or Ibanez Roadsters....so many nice basses! [/quote] Where abouts are you? You're more than welcome to come play my two. Roadstars are a good shout too. Both represent unrivalled bang for the buck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomBass Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 [quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1377169521' post='2184189'] Yamaha BB1024(x)? Vintage passive tones by the bucketload, looks lovely and cracking build quality. Second hand costs maybe £500-600. Truckstop [/quote] I got mine new for that price. However no pan pot on the BB, instead a pickup switch. Op: you wanted the ability to pan, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornats Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 [quote name='White Cloud' timestamp='1377373372' post='2186903'] Agree with this. Do yourself a favour and avoid going down the same old F route. [/quote] I'm totally not hung up on going Fender [quote name='cocco' timestamp='1377376200' post='2186945'] I know it's not a fender, but I'm gonna suggest you have a look at a Peavey T-40 [/quote] Aye will do I think my local PMT has some Peaveys in that I didn't try when I was up there. [quote name='Pinball' timestamp='1377376491' post='2186952'] I thought about those or Ibanez Roadsters....so many nice basses! [/quote] Yea, I'll head back to PMT and have a go at their Ibby range. And I need to try some Yamahas too. But it was also pointed out to me (thanks Pinball!) that if I were to buy a Squier Jazz and put some better pups in it then why don't I try converting my Rockbass Corvette into a passive bass... so I'm gonna look into that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocco Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Roadsters and T-40s are fairly vintage instruments. Your best bet for them is eBay/gumtree/ for sale section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornats Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 I don't mind switching or panning between pickups. I tend to go full on anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 [quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1377457967' post='2187817'] I tend to go full on anyway. [/quote] Rock 'n' Roll! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornats Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 [quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1377447306' post='2187639'] why don't I try converting my Rockbass Corvette into a passive bass... so I'm gonna look into that too. [/quote] Turns out my tiny-looking Corvette weighs the same as my Overwater and is just as big! I'd never have thought that until I had them side-by-side. It sounds fairly similar too despite being active. Hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Dingwall ABZ 4 or 5. Passive and awesome. Super light weight and easy to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinball Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 [quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1377513247' post='2188256'] Turns out my tiny-looking Corvette weighs the same as my Overwater and is just as big! I'd never have thought that until I had them side-by-side. It sounds fairly similar too despite being active. Hmm. [/quote] I always liked the sound of your corvette both live and recorded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornats Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 [quote name='Pinball' timestamp='1377185927' post='2184517'] Agreed love those high end BB's and a goodrange of tones on this Schecter and good quality for the price, see vid here [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NVj6u5reiX8"]http://www.youtube.c...8;v=NVj6u5reiX8[/url] [/quote] Why do they always demo basses by slapping them? They all sound the bloody same when slapped - like they've been thrown down the stairs and recorded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornats Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 [quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1377515250' post='2188293'] Dingwall ABZ 4 or 5. Passive and awesome. Super light weight and easy to play. [/quote] They look lovely! This is what I found online: [url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/ABZ4_Nat.html"]http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/ABZ4_Nat.html[/url]. Even though that's new it's over £1000 out of my budget and most likely at least £500 out of my budget used I can't comment on the fanned frets until I've tried them, could go either way! So, still to try:[list] [*]Squier VM Jaguar [*]Fender Modern Player Jaguar [*]G&L SB2 [*]Several Yamahas, Ibanez's and Peaveys (T-40 if poss) [*]Warwick Streamer Stage 1 (even if it's out of my price range I just really wanna play one) [/list] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomBass Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 [quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1377457967' post='2187817'] I don't mind switching or panning between pickups. I tend to go full on anyway. [/quote] In which case definitely try a Yammy BB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinball Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 [quote name='RandomBass' timestamp='1377531767' post='2188533'] In which case definitely try a Yammy BB. [/quote] He's not going to buy a Yammy. There weren't any 4 stringers in the store we were in on Saturday so I suggested he try a 5 stringer for sound-burn't orange it was. I'm not sure if it was the color or just the guitar but by his face you would have thought that I had waved a turd under his nose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornats Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 Oh was that the one with the bloody awful neck? Like someone had glued some strings onto a bit of 2 by 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Another vote for the 1024x here, lovely bass es and handsome too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornats Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 Pinball kindly (well, I say kindly I think he wants me to buy it!) lent me his Esh Various. I tried it out for a little while and thought it was ok but not for me but I picked up up about an hour ago and I can't put it down. The sound is incredible. It's not ultra light or compact and the neck is a bit of a plank but I do just really like it. Hmmm, I hope he doesn't read this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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