paul_5 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 [quote name='silddx' timestamp='1352817173' post='1867770'] There is one. It's called Rubber Shirt. [/quote] This. [media]http://youtu.be/p1enpAdend0[/media] starts about 3 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bremen Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 [quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1352819659' post='1867822'] This. [media]http://youtu.be/p1enpAdend0[/media] starts about 3 minutes. [/quote] What song was the bass player playing along to in that solo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumperbob 2002 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Wow!! This is one of those where, say in 10yrs you wake up in a sweat realising what you did that particular day. Cursed for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 [quote name='bremen' timestamp='1352819928' post='1867830'] What song was the bass player playing along to in that solo? [/quote] [i]ZAPPA [/i]: A classic "Xenochrony" piece would be "Rubber Shirt", which is a song on the [i][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheik_Yerbouti"]Sheik Yerbouti[/url][/i] album. It takes a drum set part that was added to a song at one tempo. The drummer was instructed to play along with this one particular thing in a certain time signature, eleven-four, and that drum set part was extracted like a little piece of DNA from that master tape and put over here into this little cubicle. And then the bass part, which was designed to play along with another song at another speed, another rate in another time signature, four-four, that was removed from that master tape and put over here, and then the two were sandwiched together. And so the musical result is the result of two musicians, who were never in the same room at the same time, playing at two different rates in two different moods for two different purposes, when blended together, yielding a third result which is musical and synchronizes in a strange way. That's Xenochrony. And I've done that on a number of tracks.[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenochrony#cite_note-0"][size="2"][1][/size][/url][/sup] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bremen Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Sorry, I forgot to add the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassist_lewis Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I enjoyed Guthrie Govan's interpretation of the vocals far more than the bass player. that Frank Zappa thing was ace!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Hahahahahahahaaahhaahahha....haaaha.aa.ahhh...aha...ummm.... That didnt really just happen did it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) [quote name='silddx' timestamp='1352820483' post='1867850'] ....That's Xenochrony. And I've done that on a number of tracks.[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenochrony#cite_note-0"][size=2][1][/size][/url][/sup] [/quote] Yes, but you're certifiable mate just like FZ Actually given a couple of shandies I can manage a fair bit of Xenochrony on me own... Edited November 13, 2012 by 51m0n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 [quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1352824275' post='1867957'] Yes, but you're certifiable mate just like FZ Actually given a couple of shandies I can manage a fair bit of Xenochrony on me own... [/quote] I know that feeling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 [quote name='silddx' timestamp='1352820483' post='1867850'] [i]ZAPPA [/i]: A classic "Xenochrony" piece would be "Rubber Shirt", which is a song on the [i][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheik_Yerbouti"]Sheik Yerbouti[/url][/i] album. It takes a drum set part that was added to a song at one tempo. The drummer was instructed to play along with this one particular thing in a certain time signature, eleven-four, and that drum set part was extracted like a little piece of DNA from that master tape and put over here into this little cubicle. And then the bass part, which was designed to play along with another song at another speed, another rate in another time signature, four-four, that was removed from that master tape and put over here, and then the two were sandwiched together. And so the musical result is the result of two musicians, who were never in the same room at the same time, playing at two different rates in two different moods for two different purposes, when blended together, yielding a third result which is musical and synchronizes in a strange way. That's Xenochrony. And I've done that on a number of tracks.[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenochrony#cite_note-0"][size=2][1][/size][/url][/sup] [/quote] Cheers Nigel. So basically the guy was playing one song while hearing another in his head, mashing them both up and producing a bloody awful racket, but it officially has a name so is a valid form of music Im sure you do it in a much more controlled, musical way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Now come one guys, we all moan at bands covering tunes note for note and not putting enough of 'themselves' into it and then when someone does.... Hang on, scrub that I've just listened to it. It really is sh*te... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Wow. That was AMAZING* [size=1]*I'm amazed the bandmates didn't push him off the stage in embarrasment[/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkgod Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) From 2.20 it sounded like a one man band falling down stairs. Edited November 13, 2012 by funkgod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgraham Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 That. Was. Awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I was kind of expecting them to demand he commit some form of ritual suicide at the end to atone for such a general dishonouring of everyone involved.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 [quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1352827529' post='1868042'] I was kind of expecting them to demand he commit some form of ritual suicide at the end to atone for such a general dishonouring of everyone involved.... [/quote] I thought he was committing suicide. Not a shredding type appreciator myself but I always like to see Guthrie, even when limiting himself to the blues scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Hehe I loved it made me feel better,,depp job a couple of weeks ago,half way though the set the guitarist nods at me your solo..did one just like this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 [quote name='funkgod' timestamp='1352827086' post='1868030'] From 2.20 it sounded like a one man band falling down stairs. [/quote] Ha ha! Made me lol a little. Truckstop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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