Kiwi Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Looks like it won't be for another couple of months. The problem is that the last developer didn't record what changes he had made and now we have to download the site for Ben (our server maintenance guy) to figure out what has changed and what hasn't. Then we need to install Ubuntu updates, upgrade the Invision software and create a test environment for future development. We're also vetting a new developer which may or may not work out depending on whether Ben is satisfied they can do good work. They'll be skinning guitarchat and drumchat. Speaking of which...we don't have a colour scheme for the other sites yet. What do you think...replace the orange with blue and keep it a little brand consistent? Or go for a completely different look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noisyjon Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 [quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1377802019' post='2192152'] Speaking of which...we don't have a colour scheme for the other sites yet. What do you think...replace the orange with blue and keep it a little brand consistent? Or go for a completely different look? [/quote] I'm in favour for a bit of brand consistency and look but with different colourings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttitudeCastle Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 [quote name='Noisyjon' timestamp='1377803938' post='2192185'] I'm in favour for a bit of brand consistency and look but with different colourings. [/quote] +1 Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 [quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1377802019' post='2192152']Looks like it won't be for another couple of months...[/quote] A few weeks more or less... [shrug] [quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1377802019' post='2192152']...They'll be skinning guitarchat and drumchat...[/quote] Excellent; bravo..! [quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1377802019' post='2192152']...replace the orange with blue and keep it a little brand consistent?...[/quote] This ^. Some kind of familiarity would be an advantage, imo. Thanks for the update, and 'Bon courage...' to concerned parties. Go for it..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftybassman392 Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 [quote name='Noisyjon' timestamp='1377803938' post='2192185'] I'm in favour for a bit of brand consistency and look but with different colourings. [/quote] Yup, gets my vote too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 [quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1377802019' post='2192152'] Speaking of which...we don't have a colour scheme for the other sites yet. What do you think...replace the orange with blue and keep it a little brand consistent? Or go for a completely different look? [/quote] If you're looking for consistency I would recommend purple and green (all secondary colours) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 The logic will come undone when we get to synthchat. BUt I think the colours are still cool though. Maybe synth chat can be pink instead...all the colours in a highlighter pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randythoades Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) [quote name='GarethFlatlands' timestamp='1374441769' post='2148871'] I'm good with just this section of BC, a dedicated forum would attract the kind of people I'm glad don't frequent this forum. [/quote] I have to say that i would agree with Gareth. i am primarily a guitarist who has just come back to playing bass and i have had involvement with general gear and guitar forums. Whilst there are plenty of educated and sensible people on these foums, there is also a proliferation of people who just seem to either give you completely false infomation, post silly and pointless comments and just cause a nuisance. This does not seem to be the case on BC. Although i would be very happy being active in various guitar orientated topics, i have found that in my short time on BC, i have learned more and been entertained more by the members than i ever have been on other forums. I would have no problem posting a guitar related question on BC and be confident to get some considered replies. I think i would prefer to be involved with a dedicated sub section of the current BC. Edited August 31, 2013 by randythoades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 [quote name='randythoades' timestamp='1377937318' post='2193720'] I have to say that i would agree with Gareth. i am primarily a guitarist who has just come back to playing bass and i have had involvement with general gear and guitar forums. Whilst there are plenty of educated and sensible people on these foums, there is also a proliferation of people who just seem to either give you completely false infomation, post silly and pointless comments and just cause a nuisance. [/quote] How many guitar forums have you both visited which are managed like Basschat and are lucky enough to have such a great team of moderators? Re: false information - I'd suggest never take anything at face value. Google is your friend. Re: silly and pointless comments - I suggest that sometimes being silly is the point Re: cause a nuisance - there are block and report functions available on BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randythoades Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 [quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1377937829' post='2193727'] How many guitar forums have you both visited which are managed like Basschat and are lucky enough to have such a great team of moderators? Re: false information - I'd suggest never take anything at face value. Google is your friend. Re: silly and pointless comments - I suggest that sometimes being silly is the point Re: cause a nuisance - there are block and report functions available on BC [/quote] That is all very true, but i meant that people putting silly comments on a serious question is not always helpful or welcome. It was more if a comment about the attitudes to the forum and perhaps the mental capacity of your average guitarist! I should know! I fully agree that BC is far better moderated than others. Google gives far more conflicting information quoting anyone that wants to write something. Surely that is the point about asking opinions on a forum such as this? I would hope that you are far more likely to get considered answers. I am not against it in principle, i just don't think it necessary when you already have functionality within BC for guitar related discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 [quote name='randythoades' timestamp='1377940054' post='2193756'] That is all very true, but i meant that people putting silly comments on a serious question is not always helpful or welcome. It was more if a comment about the attitudes to the forum and perhaps the mental capacity of your average guitarist! I should know! I fully agree that BC is far better moderated than others. Google gives far more conflicting information quoting anyone that wants to write something. Surely that is the point about asking opinions on a forum such as this? I would hope that you are far more likely to get considered answers. I am not against it in principle, i just don't think it necessary when you already have functionality within BC for guitar related discussion. [/quote] I understand. I respect your opinion. It's also very clear to us where other guitar forums have been going wrong. Any special interest group is likely to develop its own culture on a forum and for this reason alone, having clarity between one culture and another is a good thing because it allow members to choose where they want to spend their time the most. We intend for there to be a single log in for both sites and the same approach to management will be taken. Members from here should feel free to post a question on guitarchat and expect the same kind of reception and quality of information that they would get here. Anything you have concerns about can be taken up with one of the mods or the admin. The main thing Chris and I hope to achieve is a stable and friendly atmosphere...how that is achieved is as much down to the members as it is how the forum is managed. I hope everyone who has shown an interest on this thread so far will be able to work on that with the admin and I a little more collaboratively, once the forum has been skinned and is running. I hope to run an online...facilitated workshop. Very much along similar lines that I do for my day job. Also, if you help us by being active on the new forum you will also be helping to shape the community! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randythoades Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 [quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1377941445' post='2193774'] I understand. I respect your opinion. It's also very clear to us where other guitar forums have been going wrong. Any special interest group is likely to develop its own culture on a forum and for this reason alone, having clarity between one culture and another is a good thing because it allow members to choose where they want to spend their time the most. We intend for there to be a single log in for both sites and the same approach to management will be taken. Members from here should feel free to post a question on guitarchat and expect the same kind of reception and quality of information that they would get here. Anything you have concerns about can be taken up with one of the mods or the admin. The main thing Chris and I hope to achieve is a stable and friendly atmosphere...how that is achieved is as much down to the members as it is how the forum is managed. I hope everyone who has shown an interest on this thread so far will be able to work on that with the admin and I a little more collaboratively, once the forum has been skinned and is running. I hope to run an online...facilitated workshop. Very much along similar lines that I do for my day job. Also, if you help us by being active on the new forum you will also be helping to shape the community! [/quote] I understand. I didn't mean to denigrate your ideas. Having consistent log in would be very helpful. Would you be able to flit back and forth without logging out? It would be much easier to follow threads on both sites. I would certainly like take part in the new forum when live, especially as i have more guitar related gear and experience than bass, and i would hope some of the other guitar inclined members would do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I'm not liking all this talk of 'skinning' (...and I'm a drummer..!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I posted this elsewhere, but to get Guitarchat off the ground, here's an educational video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwIvUbOhcKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftybassman392 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 [quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1378276891' post='2197912'] I posted this elsewhere, but to get Guitarchat off the ground, here's an educational video... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwIvUbOhcKE[/media] [/quote] HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAH!!! Funniest video I've seen this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Oish and there I was, ready to post an update on developments with the forum...maybe I should hold off for a while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I'd quite like to hear about some plans to develop this forum, for example what you are hoping to do to make the blog work again, restore the wiki and take a look at the backlog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 [quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1384813641' post='2281160'] I'd quite like to hear about some plans to develop this forum, for example what you are hoping to do to make the blog work again, restore the wiki and take a look at the backlog. [/quote] The replacement blog software (it wasn't part of the core software) has been chosen. AFAIK there are no plans to restore the Wiki as it's minimal use didn't warrant keeping or maintaining it. I have no idea what you mean by 'backlog'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1384827516' post='2281282'] I have no idea what you mean by 'backlog'. [/quote] Fie! And you a roister-doistering agrarian music specialist? A 'backlog' is the log you keep at the back of the fire, all ready to go, like. [url="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/backlog"]http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/backlog[/url] Hence the much-performed song 'Hoy The Backlog!': 'Hoy the backlog, hoy it over, hoy it to the back. An hoy ye now the backlog no fire shall thee lack All: Hoy the Backlog Hoy the Backlog Hoy the Backlog Hoy the Backlog Hoy!' ([i]Trad: adapted by Rambling Syd Rumpo[/i]) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1384828407' post='2281284'] Fie! And you a roister-doistering agrarian music specialist? A 'backlog' is the log you keep at the back of the fire, all ready to go, like. [url="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/backlog"]http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/backlog[/url] Hence the much-performed song 'Hoy The Backlog!': 'Hoy the backlog, hoy it over, hoy it to the back. An hoy ye now the backlog no fire shall thee lack All: Hoy the Backlog Hoy the Backlog Hoy the Backlog Hoy the Backlog Hoy!' ([i]Trad: adapted by Rambling Syd Rumpo[/i]) [/quote] Ha! Welcome back shanty mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1384828407' post='2281284'] Fie! And you a roister-doistering agrarian music specialist? A 'backlog' is the log you keep at the back of the fire, all ready to go, like. [url="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/backlog"]http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/backlog[/url] Hence the much-performed song 'Hoy The Backlog!': 'Hoy the backlog, hoy it over, hoy it to the back. An hoy ye now the backlog no fire shall thee lack All: Hoy the Backlog Hoy the Backlog Hoy the Backlog Hoy the Backlog Hoy!' ([i]Trad: adapted by Rambling Syd Rumpo[/i]) [/quote] what in the name of the flying spaghetti monster are you doing up at 2am? hopefully not trawling the interweb for 'guitar' forums but instead something much more wholesome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1970 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The fretboard is in dire need of a design/usability overhaul if they want to get numbers up, imo. Because of that, I think there's still a gap in the market up for grabs since the demise of musicradar. I would guess that musicradar had significantly greater numbers than BC at its peak... that's a lot of unfulfilled GAS. MR had sales, wanted ads, and parts all in the one forum - it sucked!!! These should be split up imo. BC has a far better structure imo. New users on a new system should probably not be overrun with too many rules at first - remember that the rules here (48hr bumping, prices for trade items) came in gradually over time as a reaction to user behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 OK well the news I was going to share is that we DID have a developer lined up and poised to sign a contract but he pulled out literally at the last minute. This is turning into a f***ing joke but, personally I've stopped laughing. We've got interest from two more however and we're waiting to hear back on a price. Part of the problem appears to be that there's not enough work for them to be seriously interested. So...in the meantime, we have talked about setting up a sub forum on here to at least get something kicked off. However, there is a caveat... One of the features we'll install with the next Invision upgrade is a single sign in to Basschat, Guitarchat and Drumchat. What we don't know yet is whether the administration behind the scenes is done from a single location or from a location for each of the websites. It would make it kind of simpler if it was one, which would also mean that when we do get the other sites up we could transfer threads between forums. BUT... ...we don't know that yet. So if we do set up a sub forum, there is a risk that we may not be able to transfer threads over to the other sites. That's no reason to not kick things off quietly though. [quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1384813641' post='2281160'] I'd quite like to hear about some plans to develop this forum, for example what you are hoping to do to make the blog work again, restore the wiki and take a look at the backlog. [/quote] Its enough of a struggle right now to get the thing set up...baby steps first, Pete! I plan on consulting with the core of interested members on what they would like to see once we've achieved lift off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1384828407' post='2281284'] Fie! And you a roister-doistering agrarian music specialist? A 'backlog' is the log you keep at the back of the fire, all ready to go, like. [/quote] It's also something discovered unexpectedly in reserve shortly after a Gentleman's morning ablutions have been completed...all ready to go, like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 [quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1384868888' post='2281615'] OK well the news I was going to share is that we DID have a developer lined up and poised to sign a contract but he pulled out literally at the last minute. [/quote] I warned you that this rhythm methodology didn't work very well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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