lateralus462 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 My Ashdown ABM combo has a low pass filtered sub output and I am kinda toying with the idea of adding some sort of powered sub to my setup. Has anyone tried this at all? I guess the easiest way to go would be to buy an active PA sub but I'm not sure what would be suitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Ashdown made a shortlived powered sub to take advantage of the sub out. Warwick did the same. A PA sub would be an option, but surely just adding another cab would be easier? You've got 500 watts after all - do you need more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machines Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I feel the ABM has a few features that aren't terribly useful to anyone. The sub out and 'sub-harmonic generator' (octaver) being two of them. In the real world no-one is going to bring an extra sub with them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnylager Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Earl Faulkner off UB40 had some sub thing that he stood on to "feel the bass". Only a few inches tall. I want one of those. Probably no help to you though, but there you go - the joy of forums. The ABM low-pass is 160hz IIRC, so owt that kicks below that, I guess...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowhand_mike Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 [quote name='Machines' post='183842' date='Apr 23 2008, 02:34 PM']I feel the ABM has a few features that aren't terribly useful to anyone. The sub out and 'sub-harmonic generator' (octaver) being two of them. In the real world no-one is going to bring an extra sub with them..[/quote] been nagging me for a while so i'll ask here, does anyone really notice the subharmonic generator with it on or do you really need something like a sub cab to get the effect from it? i just figured mine did not much at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 [quote name='lowhand_mike' post='184645' date='Apr 24 2008, 04:40 PM']been nagging me for a while so i'll ask here, does anyone really notice the subharmonic generator with it on or do you really need something like a sub cab to get the effect from it? i just figured mine did not much at all.[/quote] You'd probably need an extra 15" cab to notice it, though i still can't for the life of me figure out why it's there. My old behringer had one and it just sounded awful (it could have had something to do with the fact that it was a behringer but i still can't see it being incredibly useful on the ashdown either), I'll see what happens when i pick mine up on sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machines Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 It's a very subtle effect and having a sub won't make a difference. You'd be better off just getting an octaver pedal though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnylager Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 [quote name='lowhand_mike' post='184645' date='Apr 24 2008, 04:40 PM']been nagging me for a while so i'll ask here, does anyone really notice the subharmonic generator with it on or do you really need something like a sub cab to get the effect from it? i just figured mine did not much at all.[/quote] Seems to work ok on single notes up the dusty end (when turned up full), but what Machines said really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowhand_mike Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 ah, feel better about that, as i hadnt really noticed anything going on, but then i havent really played with it off either and i have the bright and deep switches on so there is probably a limited amount that the 10's can cope with i just figured it was the only thing on the amp that didnt work considering the ashdown blurb says "truck loads of earth shattering tone", hopefully get a 15 soon so i'll see then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassguppy Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 [quote name='lowhand_mike' post='184645' date='Apr 24 2008, 07:40 AM']been nagging me for a while so i'll ask here, does anyone really notice the subharmonic generator with it on or do you really need something like a sub cab to get the effect from it? i just figured mine did not much at all.[/quote] I use the ABM C115 500 Combo with the ABM210 cab. In a blues/classic rock/soul band I'm in I use the subharmonic generator most of the time. I keep it in the 8-9 o'clock position to just add a small amount of girth to my sound. Does anyone else notice it? I don't know, but I do. It adds something to the sound but most people wouldn't know what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassguppy Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 (edited) [quote name='johnnylager' post='183846' date='Apr 23 2008, 06:39 AM']Earl Faulkner off UB40 had some sub thing that he stood on to "feel the bass". Only a few inches tall. I want one of those. Probably no help to you though, but there you go - the joy of forums.[/quote] I think you may be looking for this... [url="http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Buttkicker-BKP-Platform?sku=482257"]butt kicker platform[/url] and this... [url="http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Buttkicker-Concert-Sonic-Shaker?sku=482251"]butt kicker[/url] Edited April 26, 2008 by bassguppy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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