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Extremely well engineered and built. Dave left no stone unturned with these. I had a play at lower volume on one and the flexibility of that crossover really sets these cabs apart. There are a few owners here that will hopefully be along to tell you more about real life gigging with them :)

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I do think that these cabs look as though they can deliver.
I've not heard them, tho, but get the feeling that these are
are a well thought-out and sorted concept with no skimps or shortcuts...or bodges..!!

I note the large front panel logo has gone... too intrusive..??

It will be interesting to see what longevity they have.. which is
something you could level at most new makers. of course.

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I love the look of these. I had a quick play through the 2x12 at bass day and loved it. The construction is first class.
The design of the 12" cabs looks great. The handle under the top cab fits into the one on the floor to tilt it back further. Great design.

I think the handle is being used in the 2nd of the OP pics.

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  • 5 months later...

Just a quick bumperoo.

I played through one of these 1x12s on Saturday and it was an absolute revelation.
Simply the best sounding 1x12 I've ever heard.
It reminded me a lot of the famous Aguilar GS112, with loads of amazing low end extension but with all the clarity and poke you would expect from a boutique cab, like a Bergantino, Markbass or Vanderkley. The best of both worlds.
As with the EAD 2x12 cabs the design, fitting and finish is second to none too, and this was still a prototype!

These EAD cabs easily wipe the floor with anything I've ever used before, in every department, and although there's a lot of high end cabs out there I haven't had the pleasure of trying yet, I reckon the smart money would be on one of these EADs.

Absolutely amazing cabs!

Eude

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Yep, I'd like to echo Eude's endorsement - I also played through one at the weekend and was [i]very[/i] impressed. The mid speaker component (working at 800hz) is handy for anyone who likes using harmonics (like myself) - so you've got mid-punch and clarity as well as bottom end. It sounded more balanced than a regular 12" cab - very clear without being harsh and good dispersion.

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[quote name='largo' timestamp='1343208829' post='1746940']
Is it just me or have the 12" cabs been in pre-production for almost a year now.....
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True, but this is a solo venture for Dave, he has to be sure he's got the right product and that it is viable for him to produce.
Like most start ups, it's a thing on the side, born out of a passion for good gear and frustration at what's on offer from other manufacturers.
At least to start off with, he can't throw money at this for R&D like Ashdown or Genz Benz, so it takes time to work stuff out, build it and then test it.

It has been a fair while, but I believe this is the 3rd, or possibly 4th iteration of these prototypes, it's not something you can rush.
If you're genuinely interested in this kind of cab, I truly believe that these will be well worth the wait :)

Eude

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[quote name='largo' timestamp='1343209805' post='1746958']
There does come a point though where he has to "make the leap" .... even the larger manufacturers have different releases of cabs whilst they improve their design
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Well hopefully there'll be a leap soon.
I'm as anxious about these being available as the next man, in fact it's arguably worse for me, as I've now had an extensive go of one and I'm 100% sure I want (need) one!

As soon as I know anything else I'll keep this thread updated :)

Eude

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[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1343227580' post='1747384']
These cabs just go to show that small manufacturers CAN make a professional looking cabinet without compromise. These look stunning as well as having impressive design.
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I've got a hunch you'd love these cabs Gareth, they do lovely muscley girth you get from an Aggie cab with hifi definition and clarity without that slightly weedy boutique cab effect.

Eude

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I have the 212 and could not be happier. They are being tested constantly both against other makes and gigging. We tested two 112 against the 212 a while back and the 212 had a distinct edge over the two 112 a better bottom end. So Dave reworked the cabs and I would now say there is nothing in it between the cabs. The single 112 I was playing through at the weekend was excellent and had I not all ready got the 212 I would certainly be happy with just the one 112. Making the leap is a lot easier with a full order book.

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HI Chaps

Just though I would post couple of things about the 112's.


The original prototype 212 was gigged for about 2 years before I produced the EAD Foundation 212...slow and steady wins the race etc... :)


The 112's have gone through a complete redesign regarding porting and taken them back to the original three way design and a redesigned crossover.
These are the cabs that Eude and Spoombung tried out last weekend at a bass fumble in reading.

They have been on gig tests for the last 6-12 months and I still have a couple of mods that I want to make, but only regarding handle position - so its very nearly there. But even then, once the prototype is completed getting them produced still takes a world of pain and time - remember, these are not cabs being knocked up in a garage or shed.. All CNC factory produced cabs, coating carried out by a specialist company, CNC punched grills with logo all screen printed etc etc.....

We did some intensive testing out with an upright over the weekend using the pure power amp stage of an amp and the upright players John East Blend unit, so essentially no eq or pre colouring the signal and it was a top result for the upright sound. Really very pleased with it.

I have been very happy with them as a cab solution for electric bass, but wanted to check things out for the upright - and I think its there.

Simple things like relocating the logo as it was now in front of the mid range driver.....

This was the original 2way cab next to the Foundation 212





And here is the latest incarnation with larger rear porting and back to the full three way spec






Dave

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[quote name='DirkThrust' timestamp='1343231657' post='1747484']
[i]Has anyone got an idea of the weight of these?[/i]
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An easy one hand lift, I'd guess about 35 lbs, or there abouts.
Remember that's the prototypes though, so they might end up a little lighter.

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OK..just a few thoughts and appreciate that a certain mod or change of tack can be months of work

Like the idea of the mid range unit...a LOT...!!
General aesthetics start off well..but I wonder how well that dull grey livery will cope with a few miles on the clock.
Not talking about robustness of the cabs here or the finish so much..... but will they still look good in a few years time..?

I'd be thinking a darker colouring.. maybe just a simple mean black..

Also, not sure the handle/stacking arrangment works in terms of looking the part.

I don't know how much the finished price will be but in terms of simple elegant 12's..., Berg, Ag DB and Baer, to name a few, all look top notch.
There is nothing iffy about the cosmetic design IMO with those.... and if you are pitching against them with the price, these will be the standards you will be judged against..??

My 2p... well, you did ask.. :lol:

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[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1343242776' post='1747707']

I wonder how well that dull grey livery will cope with a few miles on the clock.
Not talking about robustness of the cabs here or the finish so much..... but will they still look good in a few years time..?

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One thing that will always polarise views is the looks of cabs. Colour and style of a cab some will love some will hate, and I would expect nothing less. From the very outset I chose not to just make 'another black box'. its an easy option, but I wanted something to look just a little different.

As far as the finish holding up, I have spent years trying all sorts of different cab finishes from the standard heavy duty carpet, thin Tolex, water based paint on tuffcab,

Non of them even come close to this product.

Obviously for something to still look good in a few years time is [i]exactly [/i]down to longterm robustness, it goes hand in hand.

The tuffcab / Alldcroft paint I have used for years on PA cabs . I was actually at school with the Lee and Julie aldcroft who produce the tuffcab paint, its good stuff, but marks and chips far to readily

Schroeder went onto using a similar stuff, and again its easily chipped.

Carpet can be tough but after a period of time it will tear or pull,
Tolex rips and tears

[i]All of them can still look great after years of gigging if looked after.[/i]

The coating that I have opted to use on these cabs is possibly the toughest thing I have come across, but the biggest issue was finding a company that can apply it accurately.

I had a world of pain with a couple of companies who's product was fine, but application was shocking. The company I use have ex Airspace sprayers and car sprayers applying the stuff and all to a very high standard.

The product is completely monolithic (sprayed on in one operation and cures with no joints or seams) and is completely water proof. It can be scrubbed down with water and soap and just wiped dry.


Aside from the cab obviously wanting to sound good, choice of materials and final finish is pretty much the most important part of the build for me

There is downside to using certain materials and that is weight. I always prefer to have the cabs made from very high quality Birch ply. Its great to work with and very consistent, but good quality Finish Birch is Dense and therefore a little heavier than using something like a poplar ply. I use fairly thin panels with internal bracing, but even so, one cab made form poplar will weigh less than the same made from Birch. birch is much tougher and denser and panels are stronger...

To try and make any cab stack up against the competition, it has too look and be built to a very high standard. Every product can have niggles and issues (thats the nature of production) but all you can do is try and minimise the potential problems.

I have of course had the cabs stacked up against lots and lots of the obvious competition, at bass bashes, private trials, gigs etc, however sound is subjective so it would do me no good whatsoever to attempt to say Cab X is better than cab Y, as every body has there own perception of what works for them.

The 112's tilt back stacking system works fantastically for small gigs where you are right up against your backline as you can tilt the top cab back and get a good earful of bassy goodness

Hope that's answered a few questions

Dave

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