V4lve Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Hi. Does anyone know where I can get a bass tab for Steve Wonder's Do I Do. Really inspired by this. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejj4y-aPC2E"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejj4y-aPC2E[/url] I can get the basic riff but the runs and stuff are too fast for me to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgie Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Here is the full transcription, from Bass Player Magazine. Pretty accurate, and has both tab and notation. Good luck - I expect a video once you've learnt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V4lve Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 Ta. Looks easy (not) ...sigh. Will have a go tho.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soliloquy Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I'm sure Nathan detunes his bass by a semitone. I guess that's why there's the discrepancy between the TAB and the notation. I'm sure Bass player magazine say to detune. I've got a transcription somewhere that I did a few years ago and it's pretty much the same as in the magazine, as played being the same as 'as heard'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wal4string Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 [quote name='Soliloquy' timestamp='1325791421' post='1487873'] I'm sure Nathan detunes his bass by a semitone. I guess that's why there's the discrepancy between the TAB and the notation. I'm sure Bass player magazine say to detune. I've got a transcription somewhere that I did a few years ago and it's pretty much the same as in the magazine, as played being the same as 'as heard'. [/quote] Nathan detunes his bass for everything, something to do with getting a Hendrix vibe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebass Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 [quote name='Soliloquy' timestamp='1325791421' post='1487873'] I'm sure Nathan detunes his bass by a semitone. I guess that's why there's the discrepancy between the TAB and the notation. I'm sure Bass player magazine say to detune. I've got a transcription somewhere that I did a few years ago and it's pretty much the same as in the magazine, as played being the same as 'as heard'. [/quote] Consider this, you de-tune your bass as indicated and then play along with the notation - you would sound a semitone lower than the recording. That's why the notation should be written up a semitone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soliloquy Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 [quote name='Joebass' timestamp='1325794196' post='1487950'] Consider this, you de-tune your bass as indicated and then play along with the notation - you would sound a semitone lower than the recording. That's why the notation should be written up a semitone. [/quote] Well no, it's the TAB that says to detune, I'm sure the strings are labelled Eb/Ab/Db/Gb. You play the notation as written E is E, A is A, Bb is Bb etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebass Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Soliloquy' timestamp='1325795166' post='1487970'] Well no, it's the TAB that says to detune, I'm sure the strings are labelled Eb/Ab/Db/Gb. You play the notation as written E is E, A is A, Bb is Bb etc. [/quote] No, that's completely wrong. Check out any song in a transcription book that features down-tuned guitars. The notation is ALWAYS transposed so that you can read it on a transposed instrument and sound at the correct pitch. Here's an example: [url="http://www.onlinesheetmusic.com/get-the-funk-out-p382346.aspx"]http://www.onlinesheetmusic.com/get-the-funk-out-p382346.aspx[/url] Edited January 5, 2012 by Joebass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyratm Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I think my head just melted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soliloquy Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 [quote name='Joebass' timestamp='1325795321' post='1487975'] No, that's completely wrong. Check out any song in a transcription book that features down-tuned guitars. The notation is ALWAYS transposed so that you can read it on a transposed instrument and sound at the correct pitch. Here's an example: [url="http://www.onlinesheetmusic.com/get-the-funk-out-p382346.aspx"]http://www.onlineshe...ut-p382346.aspx[/url] [/quote] I bow to your superior knowledge, and can't be bothered to argue . But I'd be well annoyed if I arrived on a gig and had to down tune to play a chart for a song. I have played lots of charts, a lot of Stevie Wonder songs too. Most of my gigs involve reading, and they've always been written out as heard. I have the chart for 'I wish' in front of me now, key signature is Eb minor, notated as played and heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebass Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 [quote name='Soliloquy' timestamp='1325796932' post='1488024'] I bow to your superior knowledge, and can't ber songs toe bothered to argue . But I'd be well annoyed if I arrived on a gig and had to down tune to play a chart for a song. I have played lots of charts, a lot of Stevie Wondo. Most of my gigs involve reading, and they've always been written out as heard. I have the chart for 'I wish' in front of me now, key signature is Eb minor, notated as played and heard. [/quote] You're right, you'd never see a chart on a gig that you would have to down-tune for but that's a different matter altogether - we're talking about a note for note transcription of a particular performance intended to be played as closely to the original as possible. Not a working chart intended for sight reading on a gig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilmour Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 [quote name='Joebass' timestamp='1325795321' post='1487975'] No, that's completely wrong. Check out any song in a transcription book that features down-tuned guitars. The notation is ALWAYS transposed so that you can read it on a transposed instrument and sound at the correct pitch. Here's an example: [url="http://www.onlinesheetmusic.com/get-the-funk-out-p382346.aspx"]http://www.onlineshe...ut-p382346.aspx[/url] [/quote] That really surprises me. I get that TAB takes into account tuning differences, but it surprises me that notation does the same. It makes sense (to a point) if all the strings are tuned down the same amount (i.e a half step so you're playing all flats on open strings) but what about when they aren't tuned evenly, i.e drop D or some of the open tunings guitar players use? Not trying to troll just genuinely interested as that really surprises me. Ta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgie Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I just use Transcribe! to shift the MP3 up a semi tone when I play a long...Simples! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebass Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 [quote name='gilmour' timestamp='1325863615' post='1489027'] That really surprises me. I get that TAB takes into account tuning differences, but it surprises me that notation does the same. It makes sense (to a point) if all the strings are tuned down the same amount (i.e a half step so you're playing all flats on open strings) but what about when they aren't tuned evenly, i.e drop D or some of the open tunings guitar players use? Not trying to troll just genuinely interested as that really surprises me. Ta. [/quote] The notation is only transposed when the bass/guitar is tuned relatively to standard tuning. For example, D tuning is standard tuning down 1 tone, If the notation wasn't transposed you'd read a C, and have to play a D which can get very confusing. Transposing the notation up 1 tone eliminates this step and you can read as if playing an instrument in standard tuning. Other tunings, such as drop D or G tuning on the guitar, are written at concert as these cannot be related to standard tuning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilmour Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 [quote name='Joebass' timestamp='1325877326' post='1489343'] The notation is only transposed when the bass/guitar is tuned relatively to standard tuning. For example, D tuning is standard tuning down 1 tone, If the notation wasn't transposed you'd read a C, and have to play a D which can get very confusing. Transposing the notation up 1 tone eliminates this step and you can read as if playing an instrument in standard tuning. Other tunings, such as drop D or G tuning on the guitar, are written at concert as these cannot be related to standard tuning. [/quote] Interesting, Ta. Is that the same for horns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinBass Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I couldn't open the file and I'd love to have a go at this one. Does anyone have that transcription in pdf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Higginson Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) JustinBass, Change the file extention to .PDF and it should become readable. Do I Do is a killer and I'm a [b]tad[/b] frustrated that I've just found the notation after learning it by ear! (Hey, good practice though!) Master blaster is also in 1/2 step down tuning, and so's superstition as well. Either the Stevie Wonder tracks were written in Eb, Nathan Watts wanted to have that more 'natural' feeling- where he can just strike that Eb at the end of that insane riff, or the looser tension on the strings seemed to suit his playing style more. I suspect it's a mixture of all three! Edited May 16, 2013 by Joshua Higginson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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