wateroftyne Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 [quote name='Bobby K' post='1214525' date='Apr 29 2011, 08:06 AM']Let's face it, Geddy gets amazing tone no matter what bass he plays, I think we'd all agree.[/quote] He used to... now he just does that 'danganaganganganganganganga...' flappy-finger thing most of the time. I wish he'd stop, but he just won't listen to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Yes, I do wish Geddy would retire the flamenco thing. It was a neat trick to start with but I do think his basslines have lost some of their appeal and impact post 1993. He still comes up with great lines, just without the wonderful busy sound he used to have with those awesome fills he could rattle off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 [quote name='Chris2112' post='1214530' date='Apr 29 2011, 08:11 AM']Yes, I do wish Geddy would retire the flamenco thing. It was a neat trick to start with but I do think his basslines have lost some of their appeal and impact post 1993. He still comes up with great lines, just without the wonderful busy sound he used to have with those awesome fills he could rattle off.[/quote] Exactly. I didn't mind so much until he started doing it in the older stuff, too... that great instrumental break in Between the Wheels, for example. He used to *play* it. Now it's flamenco-ised. Meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonsmith Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 [quote name='dmccombe7' post='1214501' date='Apr 29 2011, 07:18 AM']You guys are obviously more into it than i am and i stand corrected. Sorry if I've offended. Cheers Dave [/quote] I don't think anyone could be offended. I feel like a total anorak sometimes, but (as you can probably guess from my gear) I played in a Rush tribute for a while and studied such stuff in a lot more detail than any sane person would/should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steverickwood Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 [quote name='jonsmith' post='1214566' date='Apr 29 2011, 09:00 AM']I don't think anyone could be offended. I feel like a total anorak sometimes, but (as you can probably guess from my gear) I played in a Rush tribute for a while and studied such stuff in a lot more detail than any sane person would/should.[/quote] I did my dissertation on Progressive Rock and analysed Power Windows vs earlier music of Rush (basically analysing the stylistic nuances of prog rock); too true to say that once you analyse a piece of music in great detail, its amazing what you learn and therefore = geekoid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 First saw them at the Colston Hall, Bristol with Max Webster supporting (very interesting band too) then at Hammersmith Odeon. Cant remember if it was Farewell to Kings tour & then Permanent Waves it was so long ago. 1979/80? My habit (bad?) of digging in & hitting really hard finger style is all Geddy's fault! Well thats my excuse anyway. That yyz is a blast. Mistified my nephew when I got most of it right from scratch memory on his guitarhero game as I used to play along to it all the time when I was younger. Don't really do big venue gig going anymore but hope all of you who are going have great nights! All hail the Gedmeister! Cheers, Norm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 [quote name='jonsmith' post='1214566' date='Apr 29 2011, 09:00 AM']I don't think anyone could be offended. I feel like a total anorak sometimes, but (as you can probably guess from my gear) I played in a Rush tribute for a while and studied such stuff in a lot more detail than any sane person would/should.[/quote] Now i don't feel so bad - thanks guys. Spotted the gear and realised you were well into Rush. On another note someone wrote that he used his fingernails. I may stand corrected again but i think i remember him saying he kept his fingernails at a specific length to allow him to have both standard finger sound and allow that clipping from the nail sound when required by simply changing the angle of his hand towards the bass. I guess you need a certain kind of fingernail for that which I'm lucky enough to have although can't quite get his technique. Still that's Geddy for you. Always one step ahead of everyone else and that's what makes him one of if not the best bassists in rock music. Cheers Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 [quote name='Norm' post='1214756' date='Apr 29 2011, 11:54 AM']First saw them at the Colston Hall, Bristol with Max Webster supporting (very interesting band too) then at Hammersmith Odeon. Cant remember if it was Farewell to Kings tour & then Permanent Waves it was so long ago. 1979/80? My habit (bad?) of digging in & hitting really hard finger style is all Geddy's fault! Well thats my excuse anyway. That yyz is a blast. Mistified my nephew when I got most of it right from scratch memory on his guitarhero game as I used to play along to it all the time when I was younger. Don't really do big venue gig going anymore but hope all of you who are going have great nights! All hail the Gedmeister! Cheers, Norm[/quote] Yep i did the Farewell tour and then Hemispheres and kinda lost touch with them when they became a bit more commercialised with Permanent Waves onward. Still bought all their albums just didn't go to the gigs. My loss. ! Went back last tour and was just as stunned as first time i saw them. You shuld get back to the bigger venue tours. Funny when you see the age gap at a Rush gig from kids to old guys like me. Everyone just having a great time. I just keep it in mind that the band are a good bit older than me so don't feel so bad. They still look cool though Cheers Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Seen them twice (RTB and R30 tours) and loved every minute of it. The 'Bones tour was my introduction to the mighty Primus too. I'm away to see Primus this year, but can't really justify the ticket prices to see Rush again, as much as I love them. Hopefully they'll tour the next album, and I'll make sure that I go to that, but things being as they are I can't spend the better part of £100 to see a band for the third time. On the plus side, I get another night to practice [small consolation emoticon] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby K Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 [quote name='dmccombe7' post='1215498' date='Apr 30 2011, 07:46 AM']Now i don't feel so bad - thanks guys. Spotted the gear and realised you were well into Rush. On another note someone wrote that he used his fingernails. I may stand corrected again but i think i remember him saying he kept his fingernails at a specific length to allow him to have both standard finger sound and allow that clipping from the nail sound when required by simply changing the angle of his hand towards the bass. I guess you need a certain kind of fingernail for that which I'm lucky enough to have although can't quite get his technique. Still that's Geddy for you. Always one step ahead of everyone else and that's what makes him one of if not the best bassists in rock music. Cheers Dave[/quote] As far as i know Dave, it's the nail that got broken (and subsequently grew back stronger) that he uses mainly and keeps it a bit longer than the others. I may be wrong, but without speaking to Geddy himself, I can't be sure I'm speculating from various stories I've heard. Who knows Nevertheless, all hail the Gedfather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 All hail, the mighty Gary and Co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Was at the Sheffield gig last night. On some of the close ups of Geddy playing it looked a bit less flamenco style and more trad fingering to me but not easy to be sure. Sometimes the individual notes were coming through better than the last tour I thought. However on the whole his bass sound is still a bit of a mess and mostly gets lost when Alex and Neil are going full on as well. I was trying to put my finger on it and it sounds like there is a lot of very low end and a fair bit of high end but not much in the middle? Can't be easy getting a really good sound in those big ice hockey arenas though. Good show on the whole, you do feel that they are at least spending some of that high ticket price on the set, lights, effects, big screen backdrop etc and a fairly large crew to keep it all working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 [quote name='KevB' post='1233980' date='May 17 2011, 09:24 AM']I was trying to put my finger on it and it sounds like there is a lot of very low end and a fair bit of high end but not much in the middle?[/quote] Obviously those halls are a mare to mix, but my own feeling is that Alex's mushy tone has a lot to do with it these days. He used to have a lively, clear crunchy tone. Now it's dull and muddy. IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I've not liked Geddys bass sound since "Signals" to be honest, and I thought his Wal sound was dreadful - like elastic bands stretched over a shoebox. Still really looking forward to seeing them on Sunday though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 (edited) I'd better not post any spoilers then if there are people who've not seen them yet I'm not sure just what it is about his bass sound that doesn't do it for me these days. I think it's partly that it sounds too overdriven/distorted too much of the time. You really only hear it properly when either Alex or Neil or both are backing off on what they are doing in a song. If Neil has a lot of bass drum stuff to do it seems to drown out most of the bass guitar sound straight away. Having said that I thought the sound was better last night than when I saw them at the same venue from a similar position on the S&A tour. Edited May 17, 2011 by KevB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I [i]wasn't[/i] going because of price, but a free ticket has come up for the MEN on thursday, so I'm really looking forward to it. The last couple of tours I've been right at the front so the sound hasn't been good down there, daft as it sounds, I hope we're further back this time to get a better overall mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby K Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 (edited) Managed to get to the sheffield gig myself last night, as my mate had a spare ticket (will be paying him back on a very slow drip i think!) Bloody 'ell it was loud!! Very boomy where i was, which was up on the side of the arena at the front (Geddy's side) but not too far up. like Kev said, you could only really hear Geddy properly when the others were backing off. He certainly [i]was[/i] giving it a lot of the flamenco thing though; it's integral to his style these days I think.. One great thing about where I was seated was having a great viewpoint of Ged's multitasking. Very interesting watching him playing string lines on the pedals effortlessly with his foot whilst on the bass and singing. Interesting too to see the black and white jazz bass with[i] pearl[/i] block inlays and binding on the fingerboard, as opposed to black. Anyone know if this is his old Moving Pictures jazz bass with a different neck on it?? Maybe it's just a different bass altogether... Anyway, the guys rocked as ever though and now I'm [size=7][b]very[/b][/size] excited about Birmingham!!! Edited May 17, 2011 by Bobby K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) Just got two free tickets to the O2 show! Right at the back though, and with a warning that the seats are not suitable for those afraid of heights... Still, free! Edited May 20, 2011 by Cosmo Valdemar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Very boomy and bottom endy last night in Manchester, but it was all coming from Neil Pearts' kick drum and the Taurus pedals, not from Geddys bass which sounded very fizzy and lacking the usual mid punch I'd expect to hear. Not a great overall sound to be honest, good show though and a great night out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceguyhomer Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I think the MEN Arena has the worst sound in the world Russ but it sounded pretty good where I was. That said, Geddy's sound was terrible. Overall a great night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_lindsay Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Alan, Ged's black and maple bass is the old 70's bass with neck replaced by a Fender Custom Shop one. I prefer the White blocks and binding rather than the black of the old neck. As for so Many experiencing poor sound, I'm glad I experienced the amazing sound and atmosphere at the back of thf hall at the Glasgow gig!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 [quote name='niceguyhomer' post='1238527' date='May 20 2011, 06:25 PM']I think the MEN Arena has the worst sound in the world Russ but it sounded pretty good where I was. That said, Geddy's sound was terrible. Overall a great night.[/quote] Yeah, I'm yet to see anyone there with a decent sound, although Sting wasn't bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby K Posted May 21, 2011 Author Share Posted May 21, 2011 [quote name='kevin_lindsay' post='1238533' date='May 20 2011, 06:31 PM']Alan, Ged's black and maple bass is the old 70's bass with neck replaced by a Fender Custom Shop one. I prefer the White blocks and binding rather than the black of the old neck. As for so Many experiencing poor sound, I'm glad I experienced the amazing sound and atmosphere at the back of thf hall at the Glasgow gig!![/quote] I preferred it the way it was to be honest, but I do like the new pearl scratch plate on it. BIRMINGHAM TOMORROW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Just at the Newcastle show now, its vert good. Marathon was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 It was... Marathon is the highlight for me so far... No busy video screens, just music. The sound is cack, though. (yes... I got a ticket in the end :-) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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