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[quote name='fryer' post='1062994' date='Dec 18 2010, 09:32 PM']I want something loud, so I was going to get a Bugera Nuke, but am now thinking of the Orange terror bass, the 1000 due out in January.

Or is there anything better for £400 ?[/quote]
Yea the 500 watt terror, but they're usually around £470. Save yourself £100, you honestly wont miss the extra 3dB.

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Seriously, I struggled to move the output volume on my Terror 500 between a whisper and deafeningly loud with a 2x15". It was like that finite point on old power showers between icicle inducing coldness and taking the skin off your back hot.

I couldn't really see the 1000 being of any real benefit over the 500 unless you're playing large outdoor festivals, and I mean huge, or big arena concerts. They probably only make it for bragging rights so people can say that have a 1000 watt amp

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On my Terror 500, for gigs in ordinary sized pubs, using one 4x12, I have both volume & gain on 2, and sometimes that needs adjusting lower.

Seriously loud piece of kit, put it through two decent cabs - well I can`t think of how powerful it would then be.

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[quote name='Lozz196' post='1063227' date='Dec 19 2010, 08:37 AM']On my Terror 500, for gigs in ordinary sized pubs, using one 4x12, I have both volume & gain on 2, and sometimes that needs adjusting lower.

Seriously loud piece of kit, put it through two decent cabs - well I can`t think of how powerful it would then be.[/quote]

I run mine through a Bareface Big One, also at standard pub gigs.

I normally have G = 4 and V = 2 to get a nice gritty sound.

Any more than that and my lead guitarsehole (playing through a Marshall 212 combo, I should point out) complains that he can't hear himself.

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[quote name='Happy Jack' post='1063685' date='Dec 19 2010, 04:33 PM']I run mine through a Bareface Big One, also at standard pub gigs.

I normally have G = 4 and V = 2 to get a nice gritty sound.

Any more than that and my lead guitarsehole ([b]playing through a Marshall 212 combo[/b], I should point out) complains that he can't hear himself.[/quote]

Ah, I see you got one of those fancy house trained guitarists. Really must get one of those.

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[quote name='Mog' post='1063687' date='Dec 19 2010, 04:36 PM']Ah, I see you got one of those fancy house trained guitarists. Really must get one of those.[/quote]

They were doing a special on them at GAK - buy a drummer and get a free lead guitarist, that sort of thing. I didn't really need one, but you know how it is ...

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how much power do you need? and what kinda loud? valvey sounds louder than the whatage loud or just massive amounts of solid state watts?
If valvey... i have a head i've been trying to sell. 600w into 8ohms.... but that wasn't my main suggestion

otherwise if the seperate pre and power route is a good idea check out krispn's eden amp he's got for sale, and just find a pre amp and bang!

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[url="http://www.soundslive.co.uk"]http://www.soundslive.co.uk[/url] were offering a 15% discount on Orange gear if you enter the code ORA15 at the checkout. I saved a small fortune buying my Terror 500 head and was amazed when I went back 10 days later for the cab - I got the same discount again using the same code & details.

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I knew no-one would like the Bugera. Anyway, I bought the terror base 500 yesterday - couldn't wait for the 1000, and probably would have been too much anyway. Only playing pubs, etc. But the new band's lead g has a Marshall full stack. So hopefully I'll be ok.

I'm using two purple chili 1 x 12 cabs, 300 w each, but I've changed the speaker in one to an eminence 450 w - 3012 LF.

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[quote name='LukeFRC' post='1063733' date='Dec 19 2010, 05:11 PM']how much power do you need? and what kinda loud? valvey sounds louder than the whatage loud or just massive amounts of solid state watts?
If valvey... i have a head i've been trying to sell. 600w into 8ohms.... but that wasn't my main suggestion

otherwise if the seperate pre and power route is a good idea check out krispn's eden amp he's got for sale, and just find a pre amp and bang![/quote]

Luke, thanks for you suggestion, but I've bought a terror bass 500. Let me know if you're interested in the RH 450 ?

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[quote name='fryer' post='1064289' date='Dec 20 2010, 09:26 AM']I knew no-one would like the Bugera. Anyway, I bought the terror base 500 yesterday - couldn't wait for the 1000, and probably would have been too much anyway. Only playing pubs, etc. But the new band's lead g has a Marshall full stack. So hopefully I'll be ok.

I'm using two purple chili 1 x 12 cabs, 300 w each, but I've changed the speaker in one to an eminence 450 w - 3012 LF.[/quote]
Good stuff, I'm sure you'll enjoy it. On the Bugera side of things I have to say I love their guitar heads. I also think the Orange Terror is one of the most lifeless heads I've played through so what do I know :)

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[quote name='fryer' post='1064289' date='Dec 20 2010, 09:26 AM']...I'm using two purple chili 1 x 12 cabs, 300 w each, but I've changed the speaker in one to an eminence 450 w - 3012 LF.[/quote]

Hi Fryer,

On the speaker changing subject have you checked, either yourself or with an expert, that those P.C. cabs are any good for the 3012LF speaker?

I ask as I went to put some of the 3015's in a cab and was told don't bother. The analogy I was given was 'It's like putting a Ferrari engine in an old Skoda' i.e. it will work, but not very well at all in that enclosure.

Regards,
Jon

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[quote name='jonthebass' post='1064509' date='Dec 20 2010, 12:28 PM']Hi Fryer,

On the speaker changing subject have you checked, either yourself or with an expert, that those P.C. cabs are any good for the 3012LF speaker?

I ask as I went to put some of the 3015's in a cab and was told don't bother. The analogy I was given was 'It's like putting a Ferrari engine in an old Skoda' i.e. it will work, but not very well at all in that enclosure.

Regards,
Jon[/quote]

Hi Jon. Well the pc cab is within the volume limits for the 3012. I still need to compare the 2 before I change the other ( fromn celestion to eminence ) I'll let you know.

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[quote name='Mog' post='1064454' date='Dec 20 2010, 11:53 AM']Good stuff, I'm sure you'll enjoy it. On the Bugera side of things I have to say I love their guitar heads. I also think the Orange Terror is one of the most lifeless heads I've played through so what do I know :)[/quote]

Hi Mog. So have I made the right decision ? Have you tried a Nuke ?

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ok, so I've got the terror 500. How should I connect my two speaker cabs ?

If I use one of the amplifier speaker outputs to the first cabs input socket, and
then use a second lead to connect from the link socket of the first
cab to the input socket of the second cab, they are wired in parallel,
giving a total 4 ohm load.

Or should I use both speaker outlets, one to each cabinet ?

What's the difference ?

And which switch position, 4 or 8 ohms, do I use for each method ?

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[quote name='fryer' post='1065426' date='Dec 21 2010, 09:54 AM']ok, so I've got the terror 500. How should I connect my two speaker cabs ?

If I use one of the amplifier speaker outputs to the first cabs input socket, and
then use a second lead to connect from the link socket of the first
cab to the input socket of the second cab, they are wired in parallel,
giving a total 4 ohm load.

Or should I use both speaker outlets, one to each cabinet ?

What's the difference ?

And which switch position, 4 or 8 ohms, do I use for each method ?[/quote]

As I understand it you have two speaker cabs, each of 8-ohms. Use one cab and the switch should be set to 8-ohms, use both cabs and the switch should be set to 4-ohms.

Using good quality speaker cable it should make no difference whether you connect each cab directly to the amp or daisy-chain them. There is a school of thought, however, that recommends running each can directly from the amp so that in the very unlikely event that a cab blows then you still continue with the other.

In both cases the switch should be set to 4-ohms.

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