Acesn8s Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 [quote name='wotnwhy' timestamp='1199981529' post='117936'] ha ha! no, Howards reply to that. something like "the serebral musicality of jazz, mixed with the visceral groove of funk" (forgive the guessed words, and the obviously guessed spellings of said words) [/quote] As for me, you nailed it wotnwhy. What a solid definition of Jazz/funk fusion. I'll need to write it down. My memory often fails me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 [quote name='Bassjon' timestamp='1439916291' post='2846754'] Ooh thanks..I'll take a look! The Impossible Gentlemen sound quite good. Is Steve Swallow not with them anymore? No idea. I think touring is difficult now as he is over 70 and insurance must be extortionate. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Smalls Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 [quote name='Bassjon' timestamp='1439897964' post='2846537'] I have just started getting into jazz and trying to find a way to mix it with punk rock! Its hard to get right but I love experimenting with it. I will post some stuff up here once Ive recorded it. But in the meantime can anyone recommend any punk jazz (if it exists??!) I've started buying jazz albums and like The Bad Plus, Steve Swallow, Miles' Kind Of Blue and Ahmad Jamal's live album But Not For Me. Where should I go next, please? : ) [/quote] If you want a bit out of order and generally more crazed than jazz usually is then Bilbo's recommendations are a good start... However, all the artists he lists do a wide variety of stuff. Here's an example of John Zorn's non-Japanese-jazzcore side, and very groovy it is too: [MEDIA]http://youtu.be/2ll9U6DNQFw?list=PLAFEA3BEF26654302[/MEDIA] However, he also produces a lot of stuff like this - and this is at the less experimental end of his spectrum: [MEDIA]http://youtu.be/v7fHXGibRk0[/MEDIA] Bill Laswell is similarly varied; he's done everything from producing PiL to crazed noisecore via dub, drum'n'bass and ambient (check Material's "Hallucination Engine" for a prime example of very swinging ambient!) Jammaaladeen Tacuma is probably my joint favourite bass player (with Bootsy!). Nobody sounds like him - he was in Ornette Coleman's Prime Time ("check "Of Human Feeling"), did an excellent album with improvisation guru Derek Bailey ("Mirakle" - it's an easy-ish way into crazed free improv) but his best albums are either "Dreamscape" (if you can find it!) or James Carter's "Layin' in the Cut". As for Sonny Sharrock (RIP!), check out "Dick Dogs", or for the full experience, Last Exit with Brotzmann and Shannon-Jackson. Finally, James Blood Ulmer is worth a look - particularly albums like "Phalanx" with George Adams, "Jazz is the Preacher", "Odyssey" and "Black Rock", though in the last decade or so he's been heavily into blues... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassjon Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 That Bill Laswell stuff is awesome! Wow, that has blown my tiny mind! When I said I was making punk jazz I meant pop tunes with loud guitars and walking bass - that stuff has sent me back to the drawing board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dapper Bandit Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 To further Bilbo and Leonard's suggestions you could also give Painkiller a try which is Laswell and Zorn along with Mick Harris (of Napalm Death and Scorn fame). Free jazz/grindcore/dub trio that were entirely improvisational. Check out the Execution Ground box set as it is truly an astonishing accomplishment and I'm only partly saying it because they are one of my top ten bands ever. I will also heartily second Last Exit and Naked City. Spinning off from those you have Mr. Bungle (Naked City tribute act initially) and Jerseyband (Jazz/Hardcore hybrid) and Candiria (Jazz/Hardcore also). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dapper Bandit Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 In a slightly straighter jazz shout out, has anyone checked out John Zorn's Masada group? Bloody lovely stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Smalls Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I got into punk klezmer through Electric Massada... That's a whole new ballgame! Check Hasidic New Wae, Aaron Alexader and anything with Fima Ephron on bass. Especially early Screaming Headless Torsos (Amandla, Choice Cuts), then you've also got the joy of David Fiucynski's guitar and the awesome percussion of Daniel Sadownick. They're not exactly klezmer - they do everything from screaming metal to tuneful jazz via dub and funk with stops at just about everything inbetween. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassjon Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I already know about Zorn and Bungle through being a Faith No More fan. California by Bungle is a fantastic record. The bass player Trevor Roy Dunn is amazing. [quote name='Dapper Bandit' timestamp='1439991136' post='2847312'] To further Bilbo and Leonard's suggestions you could also give Painkiller a try which is Laswell and Zorn along with Mick Harris (of Napalm Death and Scorn fame). Free jazz/grindcore/dub trio that were entirely improvisational. Check out the Execution Ground box set as it is truly an astonishing accomplishment and I'm only partly saying it because they are one of my top ten bands ever. [/quote] I will check out Painkiller - I never really rated anyone from Napalm Death as being a good muso so thats interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dapper Bandit Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 [quote name='Bassjon' timestamp='1440062347' post='2847897'] I already know about Zorn and Bungle through being a Faith No More fan. California by Bungle is a fantastic record. The bass player Trevor Roy Dunn is amazing. I will check out Painkiller - I never really rated anyone from Napalm Death as being a good muso so thats interesting [/quote] Honestly, Mick is probably the weakest player in the trio (not coming from anything close to a jazz background) but shows a consistently tasteful ear in this massively varied improvisational setting and he and Bill set up some lethal riddims when they go dub! Leonard, will definitely check out some of those Klezmer recommendations, very much up my avenue! Two more groups come to mind: Calle De Bauche and Estradasphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 Just found this. I had seen it before but had forgotten about it. You have to watch it to the end for a little bit of Dudley Moore mischief!! https://youtu.be/CS8Va_z-2bA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassace Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Great, thanks Bilbo. Quite a while since I've played that tune, great chord sequence to improv on. Edited September 8, 2015 by bassace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyV Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Just dug all my old vinyl out of the loft and found an Ike Quebec album that I had forgotten about. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQKC5jL_0lQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQKC5jL_0lQ[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeEvans Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 [quote][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I have just started getting into jazz and trying to find a way to mix it with punk rock! Its hard to get right but I love experimenting with it. I will post some stuff up here once Ive recorded it. But in the meantime can anyone recommend any punk jazz (if it exists??!)[/font][/color][/quote] Blurt! http://youtu.be/RBFyHfqfW-E Although no bass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Smalls Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 There's always James Chance and his many incarnations... [MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwuWGUZK95A[/MEDIA] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSir05KwGw0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aDuymevgNA Tony Malaby, William Parker and Nasheen Watts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Smalls Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Prime Time! [MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSzC3ICoOds[/MEDIA] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Smalls Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Shannon Jackson and Fuze being surprisingly funky! [MEDIA]http://youtu.be/sEvyfDQUpBU[/MEDIA] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) This thread has had far too many bars rests of late. A nice arrangement of 'So What'. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xakwGW9IBsI&feature=youtu.be[/media] Edited November 16, 2016 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 'Clams' happen to the best of them. 05:30... I think it's Frank Gambale. A few laughs all round. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWBkVucVMCY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyd Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 [quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1479302821' post='3175440'] A nice arrangement of 'So What'. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xakwGW9IBsI&feature=youtu.be[/media] [/quote] Really nice! Thanks for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Lovely opening solo from 'Christian McBride'. (The rest ain't bad ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V39lXlaj830 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Smalls Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Time for some most excellent free improv with the Philly funk section of Jamaaladeen Tacuma and Calvin Weston groovin' with The Master, Derek Bailey... [MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOGdAFxe9_0[/MEDIA] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) A couple from 'Bob Minzter' and his big band charts (with two different bands). http://youtu.be/Ioc2voPbkM8 http://youtu.be/e8gne5vjJzI Edited November 17, 2016 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 I keep meaning to post stuff on here but I am so busy all of the time nowadays and find I am rarely in front of a PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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