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Keep forgetting to post in here.
Double header last week.
We had a "Ladies day at Ascot" party on Thursday. Everyone smashed by the time we got there. Early start (6pm)  and early finish (8pm). Played 2 hours straight by request.
Not a good sign though, when you've just loaded your gear in, haven't even started setting up, and the owner says "you're going to have to keep it quiet you know?!" 
Probably best you didn't book a 5 piece band then mate!
Very surreal. It was based in a Victorian mansion, that had been renovated, big stone walls surrounding it. Set inside a brand new housing estate?!?! WTF?!?
Amazing venue, and honestly, when you're inside, you could be in anywhere. Open the big wooden doors to get to the "outside", and there a dog pissing on someones bin bag. Really weird.
Saturday was a bit more of our normal affair.
Wedding in a big marquee set outside in a field. Lovely 

Crazy amount of detail in your build Andy. Awesome to see it.
Nice job, again!

I was seriously underwhelmed by eBay and Paypal when i required their help.
Hope you get it sorted though.

I just want to say again, just the fact anyone is willing to give anything is more than i ever expected.
Cant say how thankful i am.
Very, very cool 😎

Honestly, didn't expect any of this, as i've said on the other thread i initially started, just to warn people of the fact there was a scammer out there.
Great community here.
Thank you so much

Hahaha guitarist takes "less is more" to the next level!!
 

55 minutes ago, BrunoBass said:

That commune sounds very like somewhere I played a few years ago - it wasn’t in north Devon was it?

Nah it was South Wales.
Honestly, one of my favorite venues i've ever played

Don't often post in here (not sure why), but we had a weekend of gigs that was a bit different to our usual.
We usually play one or two weddings a week. But the venue for the wedding this weekend was a bit different....a hippy commune.
I don't know if that's the PC thing to call it (not sure what else to call it tbh) , but that's what it was.
And it was brilliant!!!  Such a fantastic venue. about 5 miles from any neighbours. All off grid and self sufficient.
Fantastic venue. Big open fields with various places to sit, all trees and bushes adorned with decoration. A really cool vibe , as you'd expect.
The actual wedding room was a massive circular stone building, that was decorated beautifully. Great sound in there. The bar staff were people who lived there, and were super friendly. All drinks were free (not so good for us as we don't drink when we play, but thought it was worth a mention). Amazing. Had so much fun!
Then on Sunday we played a public gig. Only play 2 or 3 a year.
We headlined a local cider festival, and there were about 500 odd people. Had a great laugh again. 
Top weather, top weekend. 

Not the hardest to play, and i think there isn't actually a bassline in the song, but Chaka Khan - Aint Nobody.
The way we have arranged it, it's really fun to play. I think the trick to making this song really cool (maybe all songs?!?) is "less is more".
It does go down well too, so that's an added bonus.

I found one eventually, and it arrived last week.
Unbelievable value for money! 

There's none left 

Yeh it's works for us.
It's like i said, you can get way more. More doesn't always mean better though. Just my opinion.
A lot of the weddings we play at will have lighting already there.
Whether it be in the floor, or behind you in a starlight effect , or LEDs already in situ, or the DJ etc.


 

I have just found this


The LED cans werent set up at this point, but it shows how we use the LED wash bar thingys (i dont know the "official name")

I have just looked and i don't have a picture of it all set up sorry!

These are the LED cans:
https://www.thomann.de/gb/stairville_stage_tri_led_bundle_complete.htm

Here are the LED wash bars:

https://www.thomann.de/gb/stairville_led_bar_240_8_cw_ww_dmx.htm

Disco ball thingy and moving LED can were bought second hand.

This video shows the LED wash bars, but don't have anything with all of it in action

My wedding band runs two floor wash lights/bars.
We have two sets of 4 LED cans, mounted on poles.  
A disco ball type of thing, that sits on the floor, and two moving LED cans.
Very rarely use all of them together, as i think it can look a bit much.
But good lighting goes a long way to making a band look more professional IMO

I'm not sure of best advice here, but I would personally be speaking with eBay or PayPal to make sure you are covered if there is any doubt.
I had similar thoughts to you, but ignored them. Won't make that mistake again!

1 hour ago, Al Krow said:

Still no decent global rock bands formed since 2000...

You're going off formed rather than first album released.....challenge accepted

12 hours ago, Al Krow said:

what global rock bands have there been to rival Rush (or Yes, or Led Zepp or...) since 2000 anyway?

Kings of Leon?
Coldplay?

 

53 minutes ago, bartelby said:

Quite a few year back now, a band I was in opened for Lars Frederiksen & the Bastards in TJs in Newport. They took over 2 hours to sound check, with their own soundguy. We gave up our sound check to the middle band on the bill. 

Fortunately the soundguy that was with the PA hire company was a legend named Paul Jocelyn. He'd been doing sound in TJs for a long time and knew the venue well. We just had a line check as we got on stage and Paul sorted the sound during our first song. Apparently we sounded better than the other two bands.

Many times I saw Paul's advice to touring soundguys get ignored, to the detriment of the band they were meant to make sound good. Local, unknown, support bands regularly sounded massively better than the touring headliners. 

I watched The Ataris in TJs about ...15 years ago maybe?! 
The 1st band on were a local band, and although i didnt much like their songs, the mix was great. Could hear everything. Wasnt crazy volume levels.
Ataris came on, and it was as if the sound guy just pushed all the volume sliders to max. Couldn't hear feck all

48 minutes ago, dannybuoy said:

I wonder if the bassist for RnBM is the same chap that posted this recently - turquoise Jazz per chance?

 

It is. Bill is an incredible player

@Grahambythesea sorry for the delay.
It weighs 4.1kg and is 42mm at the nut, with a fairly shallow neck.
Hope that helps.
Thanks

47 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

I personally think FRFR works well for folk who have got decent amp/cab sims on their fx and potentially less well without. 

So one of the guitarists I work with forked out £1,200 for a 'full fat' Line6 Helix (when they originally came out) - he needs something transparent to put that through and not to 'colour' what the Helix is delivering; he's just forked out on an Alto 1x12" FRFR which seems to suit him fine.

The other guitarist, who has a 'normal' pedal board but no amp/cab sims, A/B'd through a comparable quality studio guitar amp and studio PA at rehearsal on Monday night. No question - the guitar amp delivered a fuller / better tone.

There also are plenty of bass players not making the move to FRFR in the first place (me included - the quality / weight benefits didn't stack up for me). That should maybe also say something to you? I don't think there is a 'right' answer here - just different options some of which will work better for some set ups than others. 

Yep for sure.
And there are plenty of threads talking about the benefits of other bass amps and rigs etc.
This is the only one about FR/FR, so that's why i'm asking about them here 

3 minutes ago, Jus Lukin said:

The other thing to consider is that while an RCF might be fine on most stages, grinding out sleazy riffs on a Thunderbird with a roaring SVT tone does kind-of require a big hulking box throwing it out at the back of the stage to feel right! 

That is not the kind of sound i am aiming for, my back is pleased to let you know haha

That's cool.
I'm really just looking for opinions. 
The interesting thing for me is, those who have gone FR/FR, don't seem to be going back. 
That says something to me.
But don't worry, i wont just "follow the crowd". I'm just looking to get some thoughts

@Al Krow I currently run a LMII and a single TKS S112 (i do have 2, but have never needed the 2nd).
I have the option of running through the PA, but would intend to use it as backline. 
It seems to me, the people who have been going for the FR/FR route all find their sound to be better?
That's why i'm asking though

Looking at some FRFR speakers, i'm thinking of staying with RCF, just because of how impressed ive been with our bands PA.
How important is the voice coil going to be for a bass player?
For example the 715s are around £550.
But the 725s, and 735s etc are all around £870.
I understand the need for these if the main use for the speakers is singing. Do i need a bigger voice coil for bass though?
What say yee experts of all things FR/FR?