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I’ve actually just picked up a second hand rig: a genzler Magellan 350 and a Barefaced two10. It sounds awesome at home and I’m looking forward to trying it at gigs over the next two weekends. I really like the EQ section and contour knobs on the Genzler, I think the orange contour channel is going to be really handy in a live setting.

Yes. I have massively overthought this 😅 thank you

Ah I hadn't considered that!

Take two outputs from the pedal and put them into the same amp: OUT - (affected tone) into the return of the effects loop and into the power amp PARALLEL OUT - (unaffected tone) into the input of the amp so it goes through the pre amp of the bass amp itself I run this pedal at the end of my board, so I wondered if it could be a way of blending two different preamp sounds through one amp (utilising the preamp of the pedal AND the preamp in the bass amp)?

Does anyone know how this compares to the Peavey mini max Mk2? Both ~£350, both 600W.... They seem like great options for lightweight powerful heads, which is exactly what I'm after...

I’ve checked as many videos online of these things as I can find but I think I just want to hear them myself tbh. My pedal board and playing style will be different to whoever is demoing the gear so I’d like to have first hand experience with this stuff if possible.

Ah! Thanks for the heads up. I will call in advance to see what they have in.

I am thinking of doing this one day in March, potentially go to Brighton and visit both GAK and the Barefaced HQ and try as much as I can!

Hello bass players! Are any of you based in North Kent? Can I try your rig!? I'm looking to get a new amp and am struggling to find shops that have the gear I’m interested in to try it out. I wondered if it would be possible to meet up with some of my local bass player buddies on this forum to try their gear out. I’m looking to get a lightweight head with 200-600W and some light weight 10 or 12 inch speaker cabs to pair with it (either 210, 112 or 212). Some of the gear I’ve seen Online that interests me includes: cabs -barefaced two10s or supertwin - orange obc112 - Ashdown 112 or 210 evo lightweight stuff amps - trace Elliot elf - peavey minimax mk2 - Ashdown ant - orange little bass thing/terror bass - Warwick gnome series I’m equally open to trying other products that fit the criteria of lightweight portable things that don’t break the bank, so if there’s something that you think I should check out that isn’t on this list please get in touch. So…if you’re in the area (I am based in Gravesend) and happy to make a new bass friend please let me know and maybe we can arrange a bass play date some time 🤘😁🤘

I had a Quick Look at those suggestions of tecamp, but as you say, a little over my budget sadly.

The Warwick gnome I pro 600W and the Ashdown Ant seem to be the front runners for me. Both similar in price and within budget. the ant is slightly smaller and lighter so it could fit on my pedal board (extra portability points), but then for only ~£20 extra the Warwick seems to have more features - 4 band EQ, effects loop (so I could use it just as a light weight 600W power amp by going through the return), two speaker outputs, aux input, higher power rating, I’m not sure I need the usb interface feature but hey!

I’ve seen that one and thought it looked like it might fit the bill! Have you tried one?

I probably don't need an effects loop - not for effects at least. An effects loop could be a 'nice to have' so that the amp could be used as a power amp only by plugging directly into the return of the loop rather than the input on the amp. If the amp sounds fine and relatively transparent so that my pedal board tones come through, then I don't need an effects loop. The ashdown ant has me very intrigued....

Hi BassChat gear nerds! I'm looking at creating a lightweight gigging rig. I've got my eyes set on a barefaced two 10s and want to pair it with something small and light. I only play small gigs (pubs mostly) without PA support so don't think I need anything with particularly high wattage, and I'd expect that something 200-500W through a barefaced cab would be PLENTY loud enough. Most of my sound comes through my pedal board so I really only need an amp with basic functions and a reasonable EQ to help adjust to different rooms if necessary. I thought about going for the power amp setup as I run a pre amp DI pedal at the end of my board, but I've read lots of stuff about this and it seems like it'd be a more expensive way of doing and potentially more faff if the line signal from my preamp isn't enough for the power amp, so I think a simple, small amp would do the job (worst case I can just plug into the effects loop return and use the mini head as a power amp only). I probably want to keep the budget for this head to <£400. I've looked at lots of heads online and vwondered if anyone had any good/bad experiences with any of the following: Orange little bass thing (I wonder if this could potentially could colour the sound a lot, and lots of people say the notched volume knobs are a pain) Peavey minimax Mk2 - can't find a lot about this but the Mk one had lots of complaints about a really noisy fan Ampeg PF 500/350 - historically I feel like you hear that these broke a lot...have ampeg resolved these issues now? Warwick gnome/Trace elliot elf/Ashdown Ant - I'd have thought these would meet the basic requirements but I wonder if would I be better off spending more on something slightly bigger/more Wattage/more controls, outputs, effects loops etc Anything else I should check out...let me know! EDIT: I have now purchased a second hand barefaced two10 and Genzler Megallen 350. It’s sounding awesome at home and I’ve got two gigs coming up over the next two weekends so I’m gonna give the new rig a proper test run soon! Thanks for all the comments/suggestions folks 🤘😁🤘

I wouldn’t have thought I could gig with one 2x10 either…. But people rave about these barefaced two10s being loud and having amazing projection, and being comparable to a 4x10…. Hence the original question in this post. 1 barefaced two10 vs two 2x10s of other brands

The rig I’m thinking of saving up for is an orange little bass thing Into a barefaced two10s - both products often get reviewed as being very loud so I’m hoping that I can play in my (relatively loud) pub band with this one cab, light head, portable setup!

I am also considering the terror bass and the little bass thing. Did you pick one over the other in the end? Keen to know pros and cons of using each…

This has all been very helpful, thanks everyone. it confirms what I suspected to be honest, save up for the barefaced option!

I'm in the process of thinking about a new amp/cab setup. I don't have an amp sorted yet but I'm thinking something~500W, lightweight and portable. In terms of cabs, I'm thinking about two 2x10s or perhaps one of these highly regarded barefaced cabs. The rig would be used in a pub band, predominantly classic rock covers - but I'd like something that could handle being in a metal band should that opportunity present itself down the line as that's something I used to do and miss quite a lot. I've never tried one, but the barefaced cabs often talk about how good their dispersion is and how loud their little cabs are when compared to cabs of the same size from other brands (and even compared to bigger cabs from other brands)... but I'm wondering if I can get just as good of an outcome with two more affordable 2x10s? Peavey Headliner 210s are about £210 new, Eden EX210 are about £300 ....but a barefaced two10s is £699. Should I just save my money and get the higher quality product, or should I go more affordable, get 2 cabs which might allow more versatility and save £100-200 overall?!

I’ve got some of the 26dB moulded earplugs, they’re fantastic. I guess my problem is less about volume and more about clarity of hearing myself/dispersion from the cab. That’s where my thought about stacking two 2x10s came from, to bring the sound nearer to ear level. But if a higher quality cab with better dispersion would achieve the same effect, maybe that’s the solution.