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Marc Day

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  1. Bloody typical! After all that b*****ks the intonation was fine anyway. The up side was that the method I devised worked really well. It meant that I was able to check it properly this time and if I ever actually have to do it I'll know how. It might come in handy for some of you other smoothies out there, so this is what I did. It's very simple, but it works well. Cut a narrow strip (about 2 mm) of tape and place it as squarely as poss across the neck on the octave as a reference. Instead of holding the string down with your finger, use something narrow and rigid, so that there's far less margin for error. Anything will do, but the Allen key for the truss rod was handy and I used that. Job done. Looks like I answered my own question in the end, but thanks again everyone for your input.
  2. Might not be much help, but that's definitely the funniest comment so far. Nice one!
  3. Good thinking Batman! Might try that.
  4. Point taken, thanks very much. Looks very much like it is as Hit and miss as I was sure it wouldn't be. I have the info I need and a plan to deal with it, so I should be fine now. Cheers mate.
  5. Being fairly new to the site and not that familiar with how it works, I felt that although the repair and tech forum was the right place for it I wasn't sure it might reach more people in general discussion so I did both.
  6. Gentlemen, Thank you all very much for your input. I think I have enough info now to deal with this little issue, if it actually does need to be done in the end. The discussion has taken up a good deal of my time today and looks like it will still run on for a while, so I'd prefer to bow out at this point. Please don't think me rude if I don't respond to any messages etc, it's just that I have a lot of other things to attend to and simply don't have the time. Thanks again.
  7. That makes sense and would be even better if I knew how you hold the stick in position.
  8. Strangely a guitarist mate just called me about something else and I asked hi what he thought and without being quite sure himself, he reckons I'm probably right. Quite honestly, since there doesn't seem to be a method I didn't know about, I think I'll go with plan A, which should work well enough and leave it at that. Thanks everyone for your input though.
  9. I have played an unlined fretless since the first time I played bass.   Initially I played through all my scales with a tuner on.   I eventually increased speed.  Eventually my ears took over and intonation is second nature.   

    1. Marc Day

      Marc Day

      Not right from the start like you but I had an unlined Status S2 for about 15 years, so I understand what you're saying and playing the thing isn't the problem. Unless you're a robot, by it's nature playing fretless could never be an exact science. Isn't that what all the sliding around's about? However, there are certain mechanical aspects of the bass itself, that couldn't hurt to get as close as you can.

      There is something about what you say that I don't quite get though and I'm not being rude. Since were talking about a mechanical problem that can be dealt with by a few adjustments to the bass, how is deliberately placing your fingers a little out to find the right note any kind of a solution?

       

    2. Grangur

      Grangur

      I take my hat off to those who can instinctively intonate the bass by being able to slide into the position giving the correct pitch.  Sadly, that's not a skill I have, but I would like to play fretless, even if that means I need to keep an eye on the side dots as well as the dots on the page; which is challenging.

    3. SpondonBassed

      SpondonBassed

      @Ambassient;

      What tuner were you using please?

      Mine has latency that would make it slow progress if I was to apply it to practice it that manner.  Generally, the lower the note the more dithering the thing does.  It could do with being shielded better too as it appears to find the G note when there is no note audible.

      It stands to reason that a tuner needs a minimum number of cycles to tell what frequency (note) is on the line.  I'm thinking there is a point beyond which tuners can not go despite being expensive and full of "helpful" features.

  10. Doubt even the Polish girls could have made a difference. There were already far too many tits on this show as it was!
  11. Me too. The board isn't lined either. Think what I'll do is put a temporary line square across the neck as a reference and hold the string down with something fairly narrow like the edge of a spoon handle. Should work. I thought about using harmonics as well. Obviously they won't ring properly if you don't hit them in the right place, but you can still be a bit out and still close enough for it to work. Also, and I'm not really sure this, but with the intonation being out, because the string length out, wouldn't that put the sweet spot of the harmonic in a slightly different place too? We must be talking about very small margins here, but it makes sense to me.
  12. Anyone have any hints or tips on how to deal with the intonation on a fretless accurately. I've done it plenty of times on fretted basses, which is dead easy, so I know how it's done. Doing it accurately with no frets is a bit of a different potato. Surely it can't just be a case of holding down the sting and hoping you're not too far out? BTW. I have posted this on the repairs and tech forum as well. Just thought a few more of you might see it here.
  13. Anyone have any hints or tips on how to deal with the intonation on a fretless accurately. I've done it plenty of times on fretted basses, which is dead easy, so I know how it's done. Doing it accurately with no frets is a bit of a different potato. Surely it can't just be a case of holding down the sting and hoping you're not too far out?
  14. I've never involved myself in discussions like this before and don't plan to make a habit of it, but it has to be said. Rather than reliving the nightmare by talking about it, I'll just paste in the message I posted on Facebook last night. It sums up my feelings on it pretty well. I thought having to sit through this year's Euro torture was bad enough, but no! Just as I was thinking it had reached an all time low Madonna showed up and somehow managed to be even more c**p than most of the contestants! Christ almighty!!!
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