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[quote name='bazztard' timestamp='1495209089' post='3302196'] The last song Soundgarden played that night was Led Zep's In My Time of Dying, which was a first (I think). After praising the Detroit crowd he said "I feel sorry for the next city" he knew [/quote] I would absolutely love to hear Chris sing that live, as sad as the subject matter is. He had the perfect heavy rock voice, better than plant dare I say it.

Cant get my head around why someone so successful and talented, who obviously has a loving family would take their own life at 52. Its very sad, and confusing.

You can get a second hand MIM fender for that sort of money if that is your bag.

Some of my favourites are: Elder, Truck fighters, Conan, Conjurer, Torche, YOB, Sleep, Red Fang, Wo Fat, Teeth of the Sea, Amenra and many more. In terms of the artwork scene stuff like: www.behance.net www.pyreclimber.com

project_c I'm afraid I don't find your assertions to be true, certainly in the genres I am interested in. It may not be your bag but have a look the stoner/doom scene. There are more bands than ever, plenty of people making money from posters, artwork etc and definitely plenty of people buying records. The bands in this scene most definitely have to tour pretty much constantly to make enough money but for me that's great, I get to see a lot of bands I like. We obviously have different experiences of the modern underground music scene. But from my point of view it is thriving.

[quote name='project_c' timestamp='1493462118' post='3288503'] Not to mention the most important factor- the internet has put an end to many things. Even in the 90s you could still have a band, a record label, run a record shop, publish a zine - and make enough money to pay your mortgage. That's all gone, and it's been replaced by collecting likes in the hope that you'll make some pocket money from advertising, by posting click bait. The internet is responsible for killing a lot of culture and livelihoods. [/quote] [quote name='bazztard' timestamp='1493441304' post='3288308'] the whole industry is dying. No live music in pubs. No one buys music these days,cept for dinosaurs like me.Existing artists only make money by touring and charging $200 a seat minimum. yet simpletons like me think someone somewhere wants to hear his original music lol At least recording at home is now at studio quality almost, too bad no one will ever hear it [/quote] I respectfully disagree with these points of view, the industry is changing but not dying. Nowadays bands can record a track, get it up on youtube/spotify and have people listening to it immediately. Generally if the music is good, people will listen. In the 'good old days' you would have to play the club circuit, hope an A&R guy recognised you and then you might get a deal if the industry considered what you were doing to be marketable. Technology has completely democratised the process and as a result we have a lot more music available to us and genres are splitting into sub-genres etc at an incredible rate as creativity is abound. Personally I go to a lot of gigs, seeing bands of various levels of levels of popularity, but generally rather than wandering into a bar and catching an act I have not heard of I will get into the band and then go and see them when/if they come to my city. There are very few acts nowadays that can hope to get rich from music but then if you love something should you not be prepared to do it for the same wage as someone doing your average job? People will always want to listen to or make music, the industry will never die, it will just evolve.

[quote name='Crawford13' timestamp='1492626685' post='3281807'] I can't get my head around of these different genres. I love The Mars Volta but had no idea they were math rock? [/quote] TBH I think of The Mars Volta as Prog Whatevs though its good music which is very technical

[quote name='Dapper Bandit' timestamp='1492584584' post='3281310'] No mention of Don Caballero yet? The American Don album is basically the blueprint for every math rock album that followed! Other top pop picks are: This Town Needs Guns (now TTNG) Cleft Tricot self-evident Yona Kit American Football Faraquet [/quote] Good to see Cleft getting a mention, brilliant band.

People quite often pay more for older instruments so yeah don't let age put you off. This is just an example but keep your eye out on the marketplace it is probably the best place to buy a second hand bass in the UK. If you buy it and you don't like it you can probably shift it for similar money on here again.

Nothing wrong with getting something cheap while you work out if it is for you, I borrowed a friend's initially which is also a good shout. Have a look at the market place on here there are plenty of bargains to be had. Case in point: http://basschat.co.uk/topic/303577-bass-collection-nanyo/

Bear in mind that your amp will change the sound of the bass too, in terms of comfort definitely try before you buy but I would leave a decent chunk of budget for a good amp. An amp with EQ options that enables you to change the sound to closer resemble what you are learning can really help with motivation.

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