AinsleyWalker

@dodge_bass I've also JUST learnt that the old Taiwanese/Japanese OC2s (like mine) which use the Boss ACA adapter need 12v to run properly... 
So for all these years I think maybe I've been underpowering it and that could be a factor in why it's so quiet?? Gonna test it out 

1 hour ago, dodge_bass said:

Yup. There’s a mod that involves disconnecting the -2 Oct which increase the output. You can also decrease the dry pot too for further volume however just taking the -2 really sorts out the volume issue and with a bit of dry mixed in it sits great in the mix. It’s a super quick job you just need a good teccy! 

Oh interesting, I'll have to look into this. Know anywhere I could look to have this done? My OC2 actually has no dry signal.. I think the pot for that control is broken so that's another repair that needs doing. Maybe I could look for someone who could do both at the same time. Although I've just bought an MXR Bass Octave deluxe and I think that might be more usable, as much as I love the oc2.

I have an OC2 and a MXR Bass Octave Deluxe.
The OC2 sounds amazing, but is very unique and the -1 octave output isn't very high.
The MXR seems like the perfect all round bass octave, really versatile with a lot of adjustability.

So I see a lot of people using OC2s with the dry signal and -2 octave all the way off and the -1 octave all the way up. I've had my OC2 for years but whenever I've tried to use it like this, it's been way too quiet, the -1 octave simply isn't loud enough to be used alone and when engaged, there's a significant drop in volume, even when using a powerful amp/cab and a Cali76 compressor in front of it. 

Am I missing something? I watch demos and it doesn't seem to happen to others.

Bought an MXR Bass Octave Deluxe, came the next day in great condition

Hmm might give them a shout.. The direct signal of my OC2 doesn't work anymore and I've got an MXR analog chorus which just stopped working one day and seems to cause any power supplies to cut out when it's plugged in, so not sure what the issue is.

It kinda sucks that they changed how you scroll through patches, so when you're on 9, you go to 10 rather than going back to 1, which means you HAVE to double click program to scroll down.. Bit of a pain. 

1 minute ago, Quatschmacher said:

Read the description on flexi controllers. It’s all explained there far more clearly than I can type now. There’s an example at the end of that section which you can follow and all should be clear. 

I'll look that up, thanks for the tip!

I have one last question (for now lol)...
How do you split a parameter like this? I see some patches shift pitch/resonance/LFO etc and I have a patch I'd like to apply to this too.. but can't seem to figure out how. 
I'm reading through the user manual now, but perhaps you might be able to help?

Just now, Quatschmacher said:

It does (or should). Turn the power off and on again. 

Ah yes, 'When ready with editing turn FI off and on again.'
Apologies for all the questions, thanks for your help so far

3 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

True but you either need to do the reset anyway or set the tune base manually (either is fine) or the tuner won’t work properly.

Ok I'm attempting to do it now, powered up holding down Program,  selected rS, changed the 0 to 1 but the Quickstart guide doesn't explain what to do now (unless I am missing something)

1 minute ago, Quatschmacher said:

Online updater right there:

Thanks, I know  as i said "It is mentioned very briefly next to the link but I figured it would be easier to just do it manually.." 
It does not give any information as to what it is/how it works so it didn't even consider using it. 

1 minute ago, Quatschmacher said:

It’s all in the manual. Reset is described in the QuickStart bit. 

Oh all the values on my pedal are already set to 5 on everything, so perhaps this will not be necessary?

4 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

You could’ve used the online updater and it would’ve talked you through it all. 

Two things, have you loaded the v3 presets on after powering up in boot mode? You need to do this otherwise weirdness ensues. 

Make sure you perform a reset all or manually set the time base to 440 in the boot menu otherwise the tuner will be squiffy. 

I did not know about an online updater. It is mentioned very briefly next to the link but I figured it would be easier to just do it manually..

Yes I loaded the v3 presets 

I don't know what you mean by the last bit... How do I 'reset all' or set the time base??

9 minutes ago, AinsleyWalker said:

I'm having a hard time understanding these instructions sorry.. 
It says to:

Launch your currently-installed version of the Editor;

So I use the V1 editor to update to V3 :S?

And also it keeps mentioning powering on:
"Power on the FI holding both footswitches to put it into update mode;"
"Reboot the FI to the boot menu by holding down PROGRAM while powering on."

So I need to disconnect the power supply and turn it back on again at these steps?

Ok never mind I managed to figure it out! 
It seems that you have to use the old editor to update the firmware, but then use the new one to write the v3 presets onto the pedal. This is not mentioned in the instructions, the only time the editor is mentioned is when it says to use the currently installed version (which implies the old one?)

I've managed to update successfully anyway  thanks!

 

I'm having a hard time understanding these instructions sorry.. 
It says to:

Launch your currently-installed version of the Editor;

So I use the V1 editor to update to V3 :S?

And also it keeps mentioning powering on:
"Power on the FI holding both footswitches to put it into update mode;"
"Reboot the FI to the boot menu by holding down PROGRAM while powering on."

So I need to disconnect the power supply and turn it back on again at these steps?

Also, the update instructions say to download the v3.00 Distribution Package, but there is no package on the support page, only the individual editor, firmware and preset download links. Not a huge issue, but thought I'd let you know.

2 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

Loads of new features, free to all owners. (I wonder how many others missed this as I did hear of one guy who sold his to buy the "new" one.)

Hardware is identical (other than the new decal).

I'm not employed by Panda but got involved in the v3 project as a volunteer bug tester/patch programmer but ended up being heavily involved with the design concept (lots of my ideas made it into the new firmware) and I wrote the manual.

Damn well I'm very glad you've told me this thanks a lot! I wouldn't have sold mine, but being able to update it is great

And that's really cool! Keep up the good work!

1 minute ago, Quatschmacher said:

Is the fact that it's a free update for v1 users not clear from the website or manual? If not I need to do something about that!

Well I recently visited the support page to get the default sounds (as I'd edited a lot of mine beyond the point of no-return) and saw:

"Future Impact v3

Bass/Guitar Synthesizer

Refresh your firmware to the latest version of 3.00"

Now because I have v1 not v3, I did not think this applied to me and so I scrolled down to the legacy files. I'm not experienced with firmware and it didn't cross my mind that it would be possible to update the v1 firmware to v3.
What exactly is the point of making a new pedal if the old one works with the new firmware?? Are there new components/effects/etc in the new model?
 

Also do you work for pandaMidi?! 

13 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

Aren't you planning to update your firmware to v3? The hardware is exactly the same so as long as you have a USB-to-MIDI connection (which I presume you have as you said you've been using the editor) then you can perform the update. What firmware version are you using at the moment?

Oh I didn't know that! I'll update my firmware now then! I'm not sure what version I'm using currently, it's the newest non-v3 version I think though

16 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

@AinsleyWalker, ask away here.

I can't load your patches as theyre for the V3 and I'm on the V1, but there's a few patches like your Twinkles ones and I've not heard that effect before!

1 minute ago, Quatschmacher said:

Also, even if I do say so myself, the manual is very clear and helpful. 😁

Yeah I used that a bit at first before I had a midi connector! I actually didn't think to refer to it for the Editor haha! There's still a few things I don't know how to use properly. 
Are your patches available online anywhere? Some of the sounds you've got there are so good! I'd be interested to see how you've got the parameters set up, some like the CMYP one are really similar to some that I've attempted but seem to have a little extra something ha

Basically all you do is a 

18 minutes ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said:

You lost me after ‘You’’ll need a....☹️‘. I’m in Essex so a little bit of a jaunt from Sheffield. Thanks for the offer tho.

Basically: 
You get a Roland UM-One MKII. to connect the pedal to your computer, then you use the Future Impact Editor (download from pandaMidi website) to edit/create/save your own patches. 

Getting your head round the Editor takes a minute but when you get to grips with it, it's fairly intuitive. I had no experience with programming or anything before this and within a few weeks of messing around I could make patches from scratch. 

6 hours ago, mcnach said:

 

In what way are they terrible?

If I knew the answer to this, I wouldn't have posted a topic asking why people think they're terrible, would I lol?

Not had any issues with my Future Impact yet, both the pedal and the software have been working fine all this year but now I can't seem to edit any of my equalisers.

If I try to adjust the eq on any patch, then save and write, it will revert the eq back to how it was before I made any changes in this session>
If I try to change any other parameters of the patch and save and write, it will save successfully. 

Anyone else had this happen to them? I've tried restarting my pc and the pedal, but it's still persisting.