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1 hour ago, Paul S said:

 

Retrovibe have some vaguely Rick-ish shorty basses in stock.  I got in touch with David and he is currently knocking me up a slightly more Rick-ish version.  Short scale.  Although we recently went off plan for a more blingy black stain, no pickguard, gold hardware look.  Not entirely sure what it will end up like but it should be fun.    This was the last mock up but things seem to be fluid

 

That is very cool!

I did kinda fancy this on paper, but I honestly think the Zoom MS-60B+ will spank this when it comes out June/July, for most applications anyway.

It's nice that Line6 have done a bass specific product though, it's about time!

I wonder what might come along in the future?...

4 hours ago, Mcgiver69 said:

I just saw a couple of videos and to be honest I rather prefer my Mvave Tank-B, for around £72 (From Temu) you get:

 

- 36 presets

- 9 Amp sims

- 8 IR slots (You can add your own)

- Bluetooth playback

- Tuner

- USB connection (Recording Interface, Firmware)

- Direct recording connection (Phone or Pad)

- Presets can be edited using a phone or computer app (Android, IOS)

- Effects pretty much work like those on the Line 6 (Chorus, Reverb, Delay, Phaser, Octave)

- Compressor (A compressor that works unlike the Tech21, Dapper & Boom Ave, which all suck)

- Gate

- 12 hour rechargeable battery

- XLR Output

- Amp Output

- Headphone Output

 

And plays nicely with external effects.

 

  

I spotted these the other day.

Are you liking it a lot then?

I tried the Tech21 Bass FlyRig 2 and it left me a bit cold, considering the price tag and the fact I love my BDDI it was weird.

What are the amp Sims?

4 hours ago, Wombat said:

Oxford Street end of Wardour St. Very nice people - Gabriel & Ritchie even let this old man use their staff toilet!

They had quite a lot of Ampeg gear but not sure if they had what you want. Give em a call 02074324400.

Gibson Garage is just the other side of Oxford Street & in the middle is Tongue & Brisket who do the most amazing Salt Beef Sandwiches!

Day out….

That's awesome, will try and pop in in the near future.

Thank you.

20 minutes ago, Wombat said:

Just been in Yamaha London. They said “mid April & RRP £208” but did imply that actual cost would be lower.

There's a Yamaha shop in London?!

Do they have any of the new Ampeg Venture stuff to play with?!

11 minutes ago, andydye said:

Headless? ha, no I don't think so, it was a little strange...

 

spec so far:

 

Series 2

6 string

24 fret

34" scale

58mm nut width (closer to 9.5mm string spacing)

17.5mm spacing at bridge

flames walnut front and back

thicker pin stripe in maple to both

mahogany core

7 piece neck maple, walnut & wenge

set neck

ebony board

luminlay side dots

brass nut

smaller medium frets

18v

2x EMG TWX pickups

EMG BQC preamp

Hipshot A style bridge

black hardware

schaller tuners probably

Very nice dude!

1 hour ago, andydye said:

update...

 

having tried my good friend Chris' Warwick thumb 6 and WoodnTronics headless 6, I have a finer handle on what does and doesn't work

 

the Warwick measured as

9mm string to string at the nut, and

17.5mm spacing at the bridge

 

WoodnTronics

10mm string to string at the nut

16mm at the bridge

 

The 10mm at the nut felt good, but the 17.5mm at the bridge worked better so I think I'm content with that combo ...for now

Ah, but will you go headless?

What other specs you looking at? I assume you'll be speaking to Mr Shuker about this bass, so which of his designs have caught your eye?

I just sold an ACG 6 string short scale bass to Russ, and he was an absolute pleasure to deal with.
Great communication and an all round good egg.
Thank you dude!

1 hour ago, andydye said:

thanks dude, I'm either going for 17 or 17.5mm I think, it's the nut width I need to make sure I'm comfortable with now

As I recall, my old Shuker 6er had a 57mm nut, which I found a little on the large side.

I've since had 50mm and 54mm nuts, and I think my preference would be more towards the 50mm, or somewhere inbetween, as I have fairly small hands.

6 hours ago, LeftyJ said:

This has always boggled my mind: I don't understand the benefit of, for example, that weird extended low B that some Fodera's have.

 

 

People will also claim a reversed headstock alters the tone of a guitar or bass - but I just don't understand. Just to make things clear: I don't claim it's a hoax. I just don't understand 

To be honest, I don't think this does anything bar making it easier to use a LONG scale string on their 33" scale basses.
If the bass is designed, built and set up properly, which you hope it would be for Fodera money, anything beyond the nut is pointless.

I do kinda dig how it looks though, but I appreciate it's a little funky looking

54 minutes ago, Kev said:

At risk of sounding silly, surely tension goes beyond the speaking length of the string?  If you have a 37" B that has a tuning peg really close to the nut and a string anchor really close to the saddle, and you have a 34" B that has a tuning peg on the far end of the headstock and a saddle a good distance from the ball end, does the 37" truly have anything like 3 inches/equivalent lbs more tension?  I don't see how it can, which again will play a part.  My headless Leduc 34" scale has a really notably articulate B, yet it anchors directly behind the nut and the break angle is close to ball end, so its as short a string as you can get on a 34" bass really, therefore lowest tension, but still sounds and plays better than most?

Well executed break angles on a bass at the bridge and nut render the length of the string beyond the speaking length, i.e. beyond the nut and the bridge saddle, irrelevant, and is a big part of getting this stuff right on any scale length.

It works so well on your Leduc as it's a really well designed and well built bass

2 minutes ago, rmorris said:

There seems to be a lack of people mentioning string guages and string types here. It's a critical part of the equation defining the string tension required. It's related to, but not the same as string flexibility. Flexibility is affected by string make up eg hex or round core. Ratio of core to winding.

As with short scale in general, harmonic response may be impaired by a thicker string but the tension decreased. Many feel that the extra "snap" of the thicker string and the lower action possible compensates.

Very good point.
I get custom wound Newtone Nickels, using slightly thicker than usual hex cores which is intended to help a 100 E feel more like a 105 on the same scale length.

I have tried regular long scales on my basses too, and the only real complaint would be too much string on the tuning post.

I play 31.5" basses exclusively, all ACGs.

All my current basses have a low B (although I have a 4 on the way) and they are absolutely brilliant.

As @bassist_lewis mentioned above, there are a lot of other factors that determine how good a low B sounds and feels, so if a luthier has figured out the secret sauce, it's possible to create a very musical low B on a shorter scale bass.

Neck rigidity, how well the neck meets the body, break angles over the nut and bridge, string choice, all play a very big part, and I would argue, if you can get those right, the scale length has less of an impact.

And, I actually went for lighter strings when I went shorter, which to my ear can counteract some of the more bassiness you can get when you go shorter.

I used to play 34" basses, had a spell on 36", and then discovered 33" scale which I played for about 10 years I think. From there I moved to 31.5" and I am very happy where I am now.

Anyone out there who thinks it can't work, I suggest you try it, you might like it

Eude

4 minutes ago, ead said:

 

It's an Audere 4-band system that I got from the US a while back before they stopped exporting to the UK.   I think it was Vol/blend; bass/treble; hi mids/low mids.  But you could get a bass/low mids stack and a treble/high mids stack which has a certain logic to it and I can't recall what I ordered.  Once it lands back at ead towers I shall reacquaint myself with it.

 

It worked very nicely for that bass although in an ideal world I would have like the East system of an active/passive tone knob.  Maybe a preamp swap might happen.

Very cool.

Part of me hoped it might've been th now fabled SEQ and that you'd want to swap that out for something else...

Been trying to get my hands on one for a while!

What preamp is in it now @ead as it started out passive, seems to be some stacked knobage going on now?...

7 hours ago, ead said:

And now back in my hands.  At least it will be when it's delivered....

That's brilliant my friend!

@ead is this your old one?

3 hours ago, Baloney Balderdash said:

But surely bigger is better, and makes you more of a real man! 

Bigger is bigger. That's the only certainty with this stuff...

You've missed out 31.5", which is my preference these days.

34 minutes ago, Merton said:

I have to say @tobiewharton I’m very glad that’s going your way. @eude sent me a pic earlier and I thought “oh good god I’m in trouble”

 

🤣🤣

 

 

 

 

Thankfully not 😃

#helping

41 minutes ago, andydye said:

sweeeet

 

aye, I'm torn between 17 and 17.5mm

If you go for the right bridge you'll easily have 5mm adjustment each way, like the Hipshot Type A.

10 minutes ago, andydye said:

thanks for checking that ma dude, I'm talking to Mr Shuker about adding a 6 aye, don't want as wide spacing as my old ACG but wider than my old Thumb 5, I've got between 16.5mm (Thumb 5) and 18mm (ACG) now as my spacing window

Now worries at all dude.

I reckon 17mm is the sweet spot.

If/when I order another 6, I'm going 17mm, my current crop are all 16.5mm but a hair wider might help with sloppy chops 😉

Make sure and share info when you pull the trigger dude!

Yup, definitely 18mm as I thought.

You thinking about commissioning a new 6er?

6 minutes ago, andydye said:

I briefly owned this beautiful bass by Alan a good few years back

 

 

https://acguitars.co.uk/project/0100recurvestype6-2-2-2-2-2/

 

...and I wondered if anyone on here had it?

 

I mostly want to know it has a good home but would also like to double check the string spacing at the bridge...the ACG website suggests 19mm but that sounds nuts to me

I think most earlier 6 string ACGs would've been 18mm as standard.

I will check with the boss  

Lovely bass matey, congratulations!